Aviation Crashes and other FAA News

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To my ears, the Newark outages speak to support staff responsible for keeping the ATC systems up and running having been released from work. Sometimes it's just one or a few people who really know this stuff inside and out, and when they go all hell breaks lose. You see it all the time in business automation.
 
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So, Trump did nothing to help FAA in his first term because had a secret plan to fix FAA in his intended second term but couldn’t because Biden won?
 

Air traffic control ‘hotline’ between Pentagon and Reagan Washington National Airport has been broken since 2022​


A “hotline” between air traffic controllers at Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport and the Pentagon, intended to coordinate aircraft, has not worked since March 2022, the Federal Aviation Administration revealed in a congressional hearing Wednesday.

The FAA was not aware the direct line was broken until a May 1 incident where a helicopter circled the Pentagon and caused two flights to abort landings, Franklin McIntosh, the FAA’s deputy chief operating officer testified.

The airport was the site of the deadliest US airline crash in more than a decade when an American Airlines regional jet and an Army Blackhawk helicopter on a training mission collided on January 29.

The unit flying the helicopter that circled the Pentagon was the same one involved in January’s midair collision, as CNN previously reported.

Military flights to the Pentagon have been suspended since the incident and will not resume until the hotline is fixed, McIntosh said.

The hotline is maintained by the Department of Defense and is one way for controllers to coordinate, in addition to using regular landline telephones.

Before the military halted flights, the FAA considered revoking the permission that allowed helicopters to operate in the DC airspace without explicit clearance.

“We were ready to deploy any option available that we could use or have that we felt was necessary to bring safety measures and better behaviors from the DOD,” McIntosh said.

 
In other news impacting our transportation system, now Duffy has the Mexican Navy running into our big, beautiful bridges.



And yes, someone has already referred to this as a “Mast casualty event.”
 
I saw a video of the ship hitting the bridge on CNN. To me it didn’t really look like something that would cause injuries, but NYC mayor says 19 injuries, 4 of which are serious injuries.

Edit - Two deaths are now being reported

The ship wasn’t even close to being able to fit under the bridge.
 
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1moretimeagain said:
I saw a video of the ship hitting the bridge on CNN. To me it didn’t really look like something that would cause injuries, but NYC mayor says 19 injuries, 4 of which are serious injuries.

Edit - Two deaths are now being reported

The ship wasn’t even close to being able to fit under the bridge.
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It lost power and the current of the river took it backward into the bridge at the wrong spot.
 
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So, Trump did nothing to help FAA in his first term because had a secret plan to fix FAA in his intended second term but couldn’t because Biden won?
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Wow, the ignorance or just blind trump worship.

We are all capable of understanding this statement. Trump did nothing but we should be outarge that Biden did nothing.
 

‘It was a terrible idea’: Air traffic controllers say recent issues at Newark are rooted in a plan from Trump’s first term​



“… At the heart of the situation is the fact that air traffic control over Newark was transferred to a facility in Philadelphia last July, leaving controllers more than 100 miles away to rely on data flowing through telecom lines to stay connected to what’s happening in Newark’s airspace.

President Donald Trump and Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy have repeatedly blamed the Biden administration for the outages. Though the move to Philadelphia took place under President Joe Biden, internal FAA documents reviewed by CNN, which have not been previously reported, show the plan was well underway during the first Trump administration, including an engineering plan that was done just one month before the 2020 election.

Duffy has defended the plan but said the Biden administration “bungled this move” by failing to properly harden the telecom lines feeding radar and other flight data from Newark’s airspace to the control facility in Philadelphia. “Without addressing the underlying infrastructure, they added more risk to the system,” Duffy said at a news conference this month.

CNN spoke to nine current and former air traffic controllers familiar with the situation around Newark, all of whom said the real issue wasn’t the execution of the plan, but the plan itself. …”
 
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‘It was a terrible idea’: Air traffic controllers say recent issues at Newark are rooted in a plan from Trump’s first term​



“… At the heart of the situation is the fact that air traffic control over Newark was transferred to a facility in Philadelphia last July, leaving controllers more than 100 miles away to rely on data flowing through telecom lines to stay connected to what’s happening in Newark’s airspace.

President Donald Trump and Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy have repeatedly blamed the Biden administration for the outages. Though the move to Philadelphia took place under President Joe Biden, internal FAA documents reviewed by CNN, which have not been previously reported, show the plan was well underway during the first Trump administration, including an engineering plan that was done just one month before the 2020 election.

Duffy has defended the plan but said the Biden administration “bungled this move” by failing to properly harden the telecom lines feeding radar and other flight data from Newark’s airspace to the control facility in Philadelphia. “Without addressing the underlying infrastructure, they added more risk to the system,” Duffy said at a news conference this month.

CNN spoke to nine current and former air traffic controllers familiar with the situation around Newark, all of whom said the real issue wasn’t the execution of the plan, but the plan itself. …”
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Grizzle said the plan to move the air traffic control facility to Philadelphia was an idea that emerged from within the FAA’s Air Traffic Organization, which is the arm of the agency charged with ensuring the national air space is running smoothly and safely. The office includes air traffic controllers, technicians and engineers.

“This was one more possibility that the FAA had not tried before,” said Grizzle of the proposed move. “Nothing of this magnitude had even been done before.”

Part of the idea was that the FAA believed moving air traffic controllers to a city with a lower cost of living like Philadelphia would make it easier to hire for the grueling jobs.

One internal FAA document depicts an overview of the project, explaining that the FAA conducted a feasibility study for the plan on February 19, 2020.

A separate document from the National Air Traffic Controllers Association, the union which represents air traffic controllers, shows just six months later, the Trump administration’s FAA informed the union of its intent to relocate controllers to Philadelphia with “an expected completion in Q1 2022.”

In September 2020, the Trump FAA justified its plan, arguing that “despite efforts” the agency was still struggling to hire air traffic controllers and that controller levels are “projected to decline,” according to a separate FAA internal document obtained by CNN.

Less than a month before the 2020 election, on October 5, 2020, the FAA in collaboration with NATCA drew up initial engineering plans for the move to Philadelphia, according to the documents.…”
 
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