Biden catch-all | Final Farewells

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finesse said:
Not sure what you expect from India. They have 4 times our population and only produce about 60% of the CO2 the US does. They have alittle more than a fifth of China's with more people.
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That's why I didn't include them in my initial post but they would have to be included if china were playing ball.
 


Joe, from some one who supported a lot of your policies, you need to admit you didn’t fail to take credit where you might have had an opportunity because you are a modest guy, you failed to claim credit because your communication skills were too degraded to do it and you guys wouldn’t or couldn’t or just didn’t use other Democrats for that task so they wouldn’t overshadow you.
 
chrissteel said:

Let the good time roll
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From your link -

“… “Today, I am commuting the sentences of nearly 2,500 people convicted of non-violent drug offenses who are serving disproportionately long sentences compared to the sentences they would receive today under current law, policy, and practice,” Biden said in a statement Friday. “Today’s clemency action provides relief for individuals who received lengthy sentences based on discredited distinctions between crack and powder cocaine, as well as outdated sentencing enhancements for drug crimes.”

The clemency decision will benefit federal prisoners convicted of crack cocaine-related crimes, who have been serving disproportionately long sentences compared to those convicted of powder cocaine offenses, reflecting changes in the law aimed at reducing racial disparities. …”

Seems like a fair and just use of pardon/commutation power to me.
 
Yeah, even as a pardon/clemency minimalist, I don't have a problem with this one. The disproportionate sentencing standards for drug offenses was always an intentional attack on our black communities, social scientists have been talking about their devastating effect on our country for decades, and the people for whom Biden is providing clemency here have already done way more than enough to atone for the crimes they committed.
 
OGtruthhurts said:
stupid partisan politics
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The drilling ban?

Do you see benefit in the drill without limits approach?

From what I've read there is a natural cut off where drilling stops because it is no longer profitable. That seems to be missed by the drill baby drill crowd.
 
It will when it is built, increased exports raise prices and exploration
And shows the administration attitude toward energy development, pipelines etc.

I know oil production is up as it almost always is
 
chrissteel said:
Drill baby drill means to let the industry determine the natural cut off not government. You know the evil market
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I don't believe that many see it that way.

Economics is complicated, and we saw during the campaign how most don't understand. I know I am a novice and I spend a fair amount of time reading and trying to understand.

I believe most think that they can drill until gas is $1 a gallon again.
 
chrissteel said:
It will when it is built, increased exports raise prices and exploration
And shows the administration attitude toward energy development, pipelines etc.
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That's not how supply and demand works. If US companies pull more LNG out of the ground, that increases supply, which barring an increase in demand, actually drives prices down. Lower prices then typically results in less drilling as it's not as profitable for the companies to drill in certain places using certain technology. Unless demand dramatically increases somewhere, there's not really a world in which higher production leads to higher prices.

But that's also beside the point with respect to the article you linked. The "pause," even if it were made permanent, would not have the impact of limiting the amount of LNG US companies could export, and it certainly wouldn't impact the amount of LNG they're pulling from the ground. The only constraints on LNG production in the US today (or any other fossil fuel for that matter) are entirely market based.

In fact, the government's interference in the free market for fossil fuel production actually goes the other way. If we were not substantially subsidizing and incentivizing fossil fuel companies at the federal and state levels, prices would be far higher than they are, and that would drive production down.
 
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chrissteel said:
Drill baby drill means to let the industry determine the natural cut off not government. You know the evil market
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1. Can you guys make up your mind about whether you like elites or hate them? I mean, you're advocating to outsource American energy policy to oil company executives. But God forbid a company do something like hire a transgender influencer. Then the executives are part of a woke mob. Sigh.

2. Do you apply this principle to other matters? Should we let industry determine the natural cut off of, say, smog? Lead in gasoline? Hey, maybe we should trust Wall Street to determine the natural cut off of subprime mortgage loans! Literally that was an argument that conservatives made back in 05, 06, 07. Nothing bad will happen, because the Wall Street banks aren't going to end up fucking everyone and themselves to boot. Oops.

3. You've been challenged on this before and failed to respond. Let's see what happens now. Do you think climate change is a hoax? If you agree that climate change is happening, do you understand why drilling for more fossil fuel production is a bad thing? We need to be moving away from oil, not drilling more.
 
Wow, Biden just ratified the 28th Amendment (ERA) of the Constitution all by himself - stating it is now the law of the land. What’s he going to do this afternoon?

If Trump attempted something like this I’m sure everyone would be cool with it.
 
I guess this would fall under the left's favorite word "fascism!"

But... i guess when it is their team doing it they consider if great for the country!

 
1. Can you guys make up your mind about whether you like elites or hate them? I mean, you're advocating to outsource American energy policy to oil company executives. But God forbid a company do something like hire a transgender influencer. Then the executives are part of a woke mob. Sigh.

There really is no american energy policy to outsource. Price regulations went away a long time ago. There is the energy markets with many private actors. Most of the drilling and exploration is not done by the big oil companies anyway. Government regulates many things which is fine. The current administration is attempting to regulate some things not for safety but for other political reasons.

The company should be free to hire who they want and not forced to by any regulatory agency like the SEC or fund managers.The public can protest hiring transgenders and can protest not hiring them so long as the gov. says out. I don't personally and did not have a problem with bud lite

2. Do you apply this principle to other matters? Should we let industry determine the natural cut off of, say, smog? Lead in gasoline?

Of course not. These are matters of public safety. But blocking a pipeline to satisfy your partisan supporters is not appropriate or blocking a perfectly legal NG liquefaction plant both of which actually lower carbon footprints. NG replaces a lot of coal in europe and asia and pipelines are better transportation options at home

And yes some of us conservatives are ok with public roads and the fed.

Hey, maybe we should trust Wall Street to determine the natural cut off of subprime mortgage loans!

The poster to which i was responding referred to the natural cut off as to the profitability of individual oil wells and drilling areas. I hope you are not suggesting the government should take over that role.

There is probably not many industry which have so many government sponsored subsidy /funding sources. There is quite a lot of government in the housing sector, VA, FHA, Fannie, ect. All of these drove prices up by making mortgages easier to get until that demand caused a bubble. There is a lot of blame to go around in that collapse. If the gov. Is going to provide banking insurance maybe they should manage the risk of that insurance better

3. You've been challenged on this before and failed to respond. Let's see what happens now. Do you think climate change is a hoax? If you agree that climate change is happening, do you understand why drilling for more fossil fuel production is a bad thing? We need to be moving away from oil, not drilling more.

No, i think climate change may be real and a concern. Burning gas in a car is a bad thing, it is not relevant where the oil is drilled here or in the middle east. Regulate the gas if you want with a tax, don’t pretend a pipeline is the problem. Plus if we raise the cost of producing here we may just be importing stuff with a higher carbon footprint from less regulated countries. Without China making cuts nothing we do really matters but some of us will feel really good about themselves

I have a lot of work today so it may be a while or monday befor i am back here, If you want to discuss further i would appreciate if you be calm and civil unlike our previous discussions
 
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