Biorhythms (MSU Game)

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No.9 North Carolina (0-0) vs. Johnson C. Smith (0-0)
Sunday, October 27 — 2:00 pm
Dean E. Smith Center
A live stream will be available on ACC Network Extra (ACCNX).

UNC Tar Heels:
Cadeau #3 – P = 25, E = 0, I = 40, X = 30
Davis #4 – P = 45, E = 100, I = 0, X = 20
Tyson #5 – P = 15, E = 0, I = 0, X = 10
Jackson #11 – P = 5, E = 45, I = 55, X = 30
Washington #13 – P = 70, E = 0, I = 25, X = 45
Powell #9 – P = 15, E = 20, I = 0, X = 10
Trimble #7 – P = 60, E = 0, I = 0, X = 30
Withers #24 – P = 50, E = 50, I = 100, X = 75
Lubin #22 – P = 0, E = 5, I = 0, X = 0
Claude #0 Will Not Play...

What about the Biorhythms...what do they mean? What are those numbers?

I've been calculating the Rhythms for Carolina basketball since the 2001 season. I don’t “do” them for any other teams or sport…just Carolina basketball. Historically this can be traced back to the old ACCBoards.com Message Forum. Now defunct, there are refugees of that Sports Board scattered around still today.

Here is a brief explanation (Questions welcome) for those new to them and a reminder for the old-timers of what's going on.

There are four rather self-explanatory measures

P = Physical, E = Emotional, I = Intellect, M = X-Factor

What each of those measures mean exactly is something that has to be divined over time...that makes freshmen and new players particularly dicey, volatile calls, as are players with little previous playing time. Over the years it has seemed that specific categories are important in different ways to individual players. The truly great ones seem to make the most out of any good biorhythmic measure. The P=Arc is Physicality and tends to measure speed, strength, agility and coordination. The E=Arc is Emotion and is an indicator of where a player's "head" is on a particular date...Ready to play or reticent. The I=Arc is Intellect and tends to show the level of the player's mental preparation and reaction. A low I=Arc can bode ill for making the proverbial "dumb play" or general execution.

Of course, and this is important, I have to admit that I do this for fun and essentially to be more fully engaged with the team and the season.

Today’s Ritmos will be up shortly.

Some needed data:

UNC Tar Heels:
Cadeau #3 Soph. 6-1, West Orange, NJ, DOB=9/4/04
Davis #4 Grad. 6-0, White Plains, NY, DOB=0/21/01
Tyson #5 Jr. 6-7, Monroe, NC, DOB=8/11/03
Jackson #11 Fr. 6-4, The Bronx, NY, DOB=2/14/05
Washington #13 Jr. 6-10, Gary, IN, DOB=2/21/04
Powell #9 Fr. 6-6, Pittsboro, NC, DOB=9/8/05
Trimble #7 Jr. 6-3, Menomenee Falls, WI, DOB=8/9/04
Withers #24 Grad., 6-9, Charlotte, NC, DOB=2/20/00
Lubin #22 Jr. 6-8, Orlando, FL, DOB=1/23/04
Claude #0 Grad., 6-7, Goldsboro, NC, DOB=7/24/00
Brown #2 Fr., 6-10, Aurora, IL, DOB=11/16/05
E.Davis #6 Grad., 6-3, Durham, NC, DOB=4/1/02
Hawkins #14 Fr., 6-1, Charlotte, NC, DOB=11/4/04
Holbrook #15 Fr., 6-8, Hickory, NC, DOB=12/22/05
Mayo #30 Fr., 6-1, Gaithersburg, MD, DOB=4/25/06
Coach Davis, DOB=5/17/70
 
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No.9 North Carolina (0-0) vs. Memphis
Tuesday, October 15 — 7:00 pm
FedExForum — Memphis, TN
TV: ESPNU
Radio: Tar Heel Sports Network
The 2024-25 Tar Heels open up play, albeit exhibition, versus the Tigers of the U of Memphis in the 18,000 plus FedExForum situated on Bluesy Beale Street tonight at 7. Both teams are heavily reloaded with the rosters of both squads showing 10 new faces. Mystery abounds and surprises are in store. Proceeds of the game attendance will go to St. Jude’s Children’s Research Hospital in NYC.
St. Jude (Sometimes with the added name, Thaddeus) is the Patron of Hope - something all the teams and their fans have right now. Most specifically, the Heels hope to be the “fastest team in the country” this season. That should also require deep bench usage so lots of the Men in Sky Blue have high hopes for playing time from the get-go.

UNC Tar Heels:
Cadeau #3 P=85, E=90, I=20, X=50
Davis #4 P=50, E=5, I=80, X=65
Tyson #5 P=90, E=100, I=75, X=80
Jackson #11 P=95, E=5, I=40, X=65
Washington #13 P=25, E=90, I = 30, X=25
Powell #9 P=90, E=95, I=75, X=80
Trimble #7 P=45, E=100, I=85, X=65
Withers #24 P=55, E=30, I=10, X=30
Lubin #22 P=95, E=85, I=75, X=85
Claude #0 P=0, E=60, I=90, X=45
Brown #2 P=90, E=0, I=90, X=90

Coach Davis, Wisdom=50

U. of Memphis Tigers
G, Tyrese Hunter #11, P=95, E=100, I=75, X=85
G. PJ Haggerty #4, P=10, E=50, I=40, X=25
C Dain Dainja, #42, P=95, E=100, I=100, X=95
F Tyreek Smith, #5, DOB not available
F Nick Jourdain, #2, P=35, E=20, I=10, X=20
C Moussa Cisse, #32, P=25, E=100, I=25, X=25
G Baraka Okogie, #6, P=60, E=100, I=50
G Colby Rogers, #3, P=95, E=5, I=15, X=55
G PJ Carter, #7, P=20, E=95, I=5, X=10
G Jared Harris, #1, DOB not available

Coach Penny Hardaway, Wisdom = 60

Look-In: Memphis, like Carolina took in a bunch of new players after losing their top 6 scorers from a 20 win team. Likely starters in the backcourt are #11 Tyrese Hunter (nee Texas – 6-0, 11 ppg, 4 apg) and PJ Haggerty (nee Tulsa – 6-3, 21 ppg, 4 apg). Both are solid to star potential guards. Hunter will lead. Colby Rogers (nee Wichita State, #3, 6-4, 16 ppg) and PJ Carter (nee Texas-San Antonio, #7, 6-5, 9.6 ppg) will be fighting for time and both bring some backcourt height into the equation for Hardaway’s Tigers. Dain Dainja (nee Illinois, #42, 6-9, 6 ppg, 4 rpg) will split time in the pivot with Senegal’s Moussa Cisse (nee Ole Miss, #32, 7-0, 4.5 ppg, 4.6 rpg and blocks). Tyreek Smith (nee SMU, #5, 6-8, 8 ppg, 5 rpg) and actual returnee Nick Jourdain (#2, 6-9, 6.5 ppg, 4 rpg) will man the forward slot. Expect to see three guard line-ups and the possibility of Dainja and Cisse on the court together. There is a good freshman on the bench in Jared Harris who could surprise a lot of folks this year…when he plays watch him (#1). The Tigers can go much bigger than the Tar Heels but that will be the case with most opponents this season. Hardaway and Coach Davis know one another from ‘way back’ and evidently are friends so there ought to be the atmosphere of a “friendly” in this one…but who knows.

Tar Heels:
Frontcourt: Jelen Washington is fired up to hit the court while Lubin has great arcs across the board. Jae’Lyn Withers has a good physical presence. James Brown brings low energy but elevated physical and thoughtfulness. Ty Claude is a smart guy.

Wings: Cade Tyson is gung-ho and hitting on all cylinders while Drake Powell tops even that with a physical/emotional combo that is sky high. Ian Jackson has the lone but great physicality measure.

Guards: Cadeau brings athleticism and fire while R.J. Davis (who may or may not play) is a wise man. Seth Trimble has a solid combination of brains and ‘want-to’ to go with a middlin’ physical.

Overall: Memphis received 7 votes for Pre-Season Top 25 and absolutely could show-out this year. Penny Hardaway has the pieces but how to get the most out of his guard-rich squad will be the challenge. As for Carolina we’ll all be watching the PACE and the quest to be the Fast without being reckless. Secondly we’ll all be watching for line-up combinations from Coach Davis…will Tyson play the FOUR for example…will there be THREE-GUARD line-ups? Even FOUR-GUARD ones? How will the pivot be divvied up between Washington, Lubin, and Withers? Is Claude a player? What WILL BE Seth Trimble’s role? We’ll get some glimpses tonight but none of those questions will be answered in full.

It is tough to prognosticate with so many new players so early in the season…tendencies have yet to be revealed as they relate to measures. By the start up of conference games we’ll have some sense of the personality of this team and how Coach Davis is working to meld them into a tournament squad.

There are a couple of “Not Available” Memphis dates of birth so this is an even bigger shot in the dark but the Biorhythms are calling for a 16 point Carolina win. Likely Tar Heel stars could be Tyson, Powell, and Lubin – New Guys.
 
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Can you add P+E+I+X = aggregate... to get one # for overall biorhythm per player? And then add all the players up to get an overall look at a team? (plus adding the coach's wisdom # - of course)?

I was on the old board back in 2000-2001 and vaguely remember this, but only vaguely. I was teaching Middle School at the time so things are fuzzy. Fuzzy now and fuzzier back then.
 
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I guess Dainja, Hunter are expected to "go off" for Memphis... and who knows about Smith and Harris. But reading up on those two, they could go off too if their biorhythms are any good at all. That 16 Heel's W could be reduced drastically. Finally, how can those guys DOB not be available? Are they like Trump - and not releasing their medical history charts?
 
Centerpiece said:
I guess Dainja, Hunter are expected to "go off" for Memphis... and who knows about Smith and Harris. But reading up on those two, they could go off too if their biorhythms are any good at all. That 16 Heel's W could be reduced drastically. Finally, how can those guys DOB not be available? Are they like Trump - and not releasing their medical history charts?
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Every once in a while a player's DOB is just impossible to find. For example, there are multiple ESPN and other sites that do provide birthdates for 99% of the players. Some teams do it. You can check a player or a team's X.Com account or Instagram. Sometimes I even check a players mother and father's social media accounts for birthdays. Jared Harris and Tyreek Smith...no go on any of those places. @nycfan even lent a hand in the search for some of the UNC and Memphis guys this time.

Players don't always "go off" to be sure when they have great biorhythm measures -- some guys just don't see enough playing time or their foundational talent/skill/athleticism level is too low. I've always figured also that things that wouldn't show up on these personal measures influenced play...like worries about home situations, locker room situations, girlfriend trouble...for a young man like Marcus Paige a test or a paper might even cause a player's performance to swing one way or the other.

So of course these measures aren't definitive. In fact, they might just be BS...or not. As I wrote above, I've been doing them now for 23 years and the process mainly keeps me very engaged with our team as well as our opponents. I also enjoy the drama of certain contests for various reasons...location, history, context...

"Can you add P+E+I+X = aggregate... to get one # for overall biorhythm per player? And then add all the players up to get an overall look at a team? (plus adding the coach's wisdom # - of course)?"

I do something like that to try and come up with who might win a game as well as a possible point-spread. I liken these things more to The Humanities than to Science though thus anecdotal factors have to come into play. I'm not sure how an aggregate of all the measures would work...it becomes clear eventually that a specific measure is more important to some players for example. Watching over time for example it might become obvious that for Joel Berry a low Emotion Arc was a good thing (in fact, it was).
 
SnoopRob said:
Didn't realize that Dain Dainja had ended up at Memphis.

So what I've taken from this is that we're in...

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...dainja.
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He's supposed to be a great passer and at least a good bit better than his stats (6 ppg, 4 rpg). His freshman year at IL he went for 10 ppg and 6 rpg.
 
I can't tell if this is supposed to be serious or not. Is it sort of like a role-playing game for UNC basketball? We make up these numbers for the players then arbitrarily adjust them based on what happens?
 
rodoheel said:
I can't tell if this is supposed to be serious or not. Is it sort of like a role-playing game for UNC basketball? We make up these numbers for the players then arbitrarily adjust them based on what happens?
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There are folks that take it more seriously than I do.
 
I just checked my biorhythmic chart for today… and I’m at my lowest point possible today for physical and intellectual… and my emotional is very high. So, I’m liable to go off on somebody and let my emotions get the best of me, but like a dumbass (low intelligence factor) I’ll go off on the wrong person and get my ass kicked (low physicality)
 
Centerpiece said:
I just checked my biorhythmic chart for today… and I’m at my lowest point possible today for physical and intellectual… and my emotional is very high. So, I’m liable to go off on somebody and let my emotions get the best of me, but like a dumbass (low intelligence factor) I’ll go off on the wrong person and get my ass kicked (low physicality)
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You 'get it.'
 
We will win a lot of games this year but will have a short stay in the tourney because of little inside presence. Hope someone proves me wrong
 
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