College Football Catch-All Thread

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aGDevil2k said:
Well we predictably were way overmatched against Old Missy.
Lane Kiffin might be the biggest dick in sports.t before
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For what it’s worth the Duke faithful had a good time on Amelia Island. We dined at the bar at one of our favorite Fernandina restaurants while watching the Gator Bowl Thursday evening. The staff commented that the Duke team headquarters were at the Ritz Carlton and that the night before the restaurant was completely packed with Duke fans enjoying themselves.
 
StrangePackage said:
I will never understand why Penn State is still permitted to have a football team.
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Because their scandal, much like our academic one, was outside of the purview of the NCAA.

It's just not something that an athletics-focused system is designed to handle. PSU would have had to self-imposed penalties on the football program because no one else had the appropriate position of authority to take any actions.
 
The Penn State and Notre Dame game has been boring so far.

And who was this awful country singer they had at halftime? I swear popular country music from artists that came out after 2010 all sounds the same.
 
SnoopRob said:
Because their scandal, much like our academic one, was outside of the purview of the NCAA.

It's just not something that an athletics-focused system is designed to handle. PSU would have had to self-imposed penalties on the football program because no one else had the appropriate position of authority to take any actions.
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I disagree with the assertion the NCAA didn't have authority in this case.

It was a concerted effort to cover up child sexual abuse perpetrated by a coach in order to prevent harm to the football program.

That was a lack of institutional control if ever there was one.
 
StrangePackage said:
I disagree with the assertion the NCAA didn't have authority in this case.

It was a concerted effort to cover up child sexual abuse perpetrated by a coach in order to prevent harm to the football program.

That was a lack of institutional control if ever there was one.
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Would you agree that the NCAA had jurisdiction to punish us for our academic scandal?

Because they're essentially the same argument - that the NCAA has the right and capability to punish schools for any overall wrongdoing that benefits the athletic department or athletic teams - and we got out of any punishment under that same logic.
 
SnoopRob said:
Would you agree that the NCAA had jurisdiction to punish us for our academic scandal?

Because they're essentially the same argument - that the NCAA has the right and capability to punish schools for any overall wrongdoing that benefits the athletic department or athletic teams - and we got out of any punishment under that same logic.
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Our "scandal" was a failure of academic oversight that resulted in academic wrongdoing that incidentally benefited the athletic department.

Contrast that with massive criminal wrongdoing by senior members of an athletic team, covered up by senior members of the athletic department and the administration, to protect the athletic department.

They are night and day different.

Failing to sanction that school was unforgivable. They should have put all the statues of JoePa in the library to remind everyone to keep quiet.
 
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This has been a crazy end of the game.

Let's hope ND can hold 'em for these last few seconds.
 
StrangePackage said:
Our "scandal" was a failure of academic oversight that resulted in academic wrongdoing that incidentally benefited the athletic department.

Contrast that with massive criminal wrongdoing by senior members of an athletic team, covered up by senior members of the athletic department and the administration, to protect the athletic department.

They are night and day different.

Failing to sanction that school was unforgivable. They should have put all the statues of JoePa in the library to remind everyone to keep quiet.
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Our scandal heavily benefited athletes, nearly half of known suspicious classes were taken by athletes when athletes make up a small minority of students on campus. The perpetrators admitted that one of the motivators was to be friendly to athletes and to help them remain both in school and eligible to play.

The differences are not nearly as night and day as you state.

If the NCAA has the ability to sanction PSU for their child abuse scandal then they would have the ability to sanction us for our academic scandal. If anything, the case for NCAA jurisdiction over athlete academic eligibility would have been clearer than for criminal activity that wasn't centered around athletics but committed by athletic staff.

I agree that PSU failed miserably to take responsibility for the failures of multiple staff members and should have taken greater actions than they did.
 
Fun game. I generally enjoy watching ND lose, but happy PSU lost. Freeman is a likable guy too.
 
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