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StrangePackage said:
Our "scandal" was a failure of academic oversight that resulted in academic wrongdoing that incidentally benefited the athletic department.

Contrast that with massive criminal wrongdoing by senior members of an athletic team, covered up by senior members of the athletic department and the administration, to protect the athletic department.

They are night and day different.

Failing to sanction that school was unforgivable. They should have put all the statues of JoePa in the library to remind everyone to keep quiet.
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Our scandal heavily benefited athletes, nearly half of known suspicious classes were taken by athletes when athletes make up a small minority of students on campus. The perpetrators admitted that one of the motivators was to be friendly to athletes and to help them remain both in school and eligible to play.

The differences are not nearly as night and day as you state.

If the NCAA has the ability to sanction PSU for their child abuse scandal then they would have the ability to sanction us for our academic scandal. If anything, the case for NCAA jurisdiction over athlete academic eligibility would have been clearer than for criminal activity that wasn't centered around athletics but committed by athletic staff.

I agree that PSU failed miserably to take responsibility for the failures of multiple staff members and should have taken greater actions than they did.
 
Fun game. I generally enjoy watching ND lose, but happy PSU lost. Freeman is a likable guy too.
 
Pulling for Notre Dame with a Dookie QB over PSU?

Tough call but I ultimately found myself wanting PSU to win

Go Texas/Ohio St winner I guess
 
StrangePackage said:
I will never understand why Penn State is still permitted to have a football team.
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Back in 2001, UVa was on the brink of hiring Sandusky. Then they quickly switched gears and hired Al Groh. I've always wondered what UVA learned or was told that caused them to change directions so suddenly, and whether the answer to that question would change the narrative of the Penn State story from one of lack of institutional control to intentional conspiracy.
 
I knew a decent amount of PSU grads from one of my first jobs out of school and still know a few grads in secondary social circles. I would probably be more open about what PSU did to clean house and own up to the scandal if their fans weren’t so weird about the whole thing. Almost every single one of them gets super defensive about Paterno and “not erasing history” with his wins getting vacated. It makes it very easy to root against them.
 
Very difficult for me to pull for any of the final four teams this year. They're all so hate-able, for various reasons. On the bright side, it's fun to watch any of them lose. Seems like OSU is on a mission, that loss to Michigan might've been the best thing that happened to them this year...
 
hedge said:
Very difficult for me to pull for any of the final four teams this year. They're all so hate-able, for various reasons. On the bright side, it's fun to watch any of them lose. Seems like OSU is on a mission, that loss to Michigan might've been the best thing that happened to them this year...
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My sons wife has given me two grandsons (with his help lol) She grew up in Columbus etc All I got
 
Really dislike both teams and have never pulled for ND, but I like Freeman. Seems like such a good fella. I'll be pulling for ND but expect them to lose by 21.
 
Grew up in Miami, so that set a base.
Later on, that NBC deal always stuck in my craw. Hated that Holier than Thou we don't need to join a conference.
They were one of the first schools to really game the college rankings.
Now's an adult that Ive met some alums (and there are plenty in LatAm)...they are insufferable.
 
Iowa St and Kansas St kick it off next Saturday from Dublin. This game next year will be with the Heels and TCU!
 
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