Congress Catch-All

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Callatoroy said:
If you and I are going to converse in good faith then you need to cut the bs lawyer act.
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So, how do you want a lawyer to talk to you?

It's good that they got something done, instead of listening to President Musk and shutting down the government for a mere 33 days.
 
lawtig02 said:
This ain’t looking good for your team, calla. Just a huge embarrassment politically for no fiscal benefit, and most of the things that were cut are overwhelmingly popular among both Dems and Pubs. This disaster will probably be forgotten after the many other disasters to come, but we can mark it down as major unforced error #1 for Musk/Trump 2.0.
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Had to fix that last line for you. :cool:
 
nycfan said:
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Decades ago, a brilliant scientist named Eric Schopler founded Division TEACCH in 1972 and helped lead it at UNC…….it revolutionized treatment for autistic and mentally retarded (sorry, I don’t know how to refer to the unfortunate young kids who were/are mentally retarded that my mother worked with in Division TEACCH).

We are not talking about “mentally challenged” or whatever. These kids were both autistic and with IQ’s below 80…..70……

One of the ways in which Eric Schopler at Division TEACCH helped revolutionize treatment in the ‘70’s and ‘80’s was that he taught the parents to return home and lobby and demand for education, treatment, programs, and support for their children.

Eric told the parents, “I can lobby with facts and whatever; you have CHILDREN.”

He taught the parents to lobby and they won local, state, and federal funding for their children.

Bring forth the children. Day after day.
 
Musk tanked the bill due to the restrictions on investing in China which would have interfered with Tesla plans to build factories there. Nothing more. Total win for Leon as the passed bill stripped that restriction out. Musk's personal financial interests is all that was served in this fiasco.
 


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Gone is Trump’s demand to lift the debt ceiling, which GOP leaders told lawmakers would be debated as part of their tax and border packages in the new year. Republicans made a so-called handshake agreement to raise the debt limit at that time while also cutting $2.5 trillion in spending over 10 years.

It’s essentially the same deal that flopped the night before in a spectacular setback — opposed by most Democrats and some of the most conservative Republicans — minus Trump’s debt ceiling demand.

… In the Senate, almost all the opposition came from the Republicans — except independent Sen. Bernie Sanders, who said Musk’s interference was “not democracy, that’s oligarchy.”

Trump, who has not yet been sworn into office, is showing the power but also the limits of his sway with Congress, as he intervenes and orchestrates affairs from Mar-a-Lago alongside Musk …”
 
nycfan said:


Political malpractice. Can’t figure out how this got started - who thought this would work? Why burn political capital like this?
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I don't get the primary threat. During the 2022 mid-terms, Trump-backed candidates in competitive races didn't perform all that great. His record was 46 wins & 33 losses. And 32 of the 33 who lost were also election deniers. They lost efforts to flip senate seats in the battleground states of Pennsylvania, Georgia, Arizona & Nevada. And lost ten governors races.

I'm just not convinced that not having his support is the death knell he thinks it is. And Actually it could be good for democrats. If pubs actually sack up to him, resulting in being primaried, experienced competent dems could wind up running races against incompetent nut jobs like Mark Robinson.
 


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“… The U.S. farm sector finds itself in another rough patch. Net farm income declined 4% this year to $141 billion after falling about 20% last year, according to the Agriculture Department. Weaker prices for commodities such as soybeans and wheat have weighed on farmers’ earnings after growers in the U.S. and elsewhere reared big crops, swelling supplies. Their costs for essentials such as fertilizer and equipment are also higher.

… President-elect Donald Trump has also pledged tariffs on Mexico and China, key importers of U.S. crops, and Canada, a major fertilizer producer. Government policies that subsidize biofuel production, which can boost crop prices for farmers, could also be in flux under the new administration, analysts and company executives said.

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Financial pain on the farm comes after one of the ag industry’s strongest runs on record. Grain prices soared during the Covid-19 pandemic in 2021 and again in 2022 after Russia invaded Ukraine, one of the world’s top breadbaskets. The war pushed up prices for wheat and corn, contributing to rising global food prices. It also pushed net farm income to a record in 2022, the USDA said.

Since then, grain exports have resumed via the Black Sea, and better weather in key growing regions in South America helped bolster global crop supplies, pushing prices down.

In Iowa, the top corn-producing state, farmland values decreased by 3% this year, breaking a five-year streak of rising prices, according to an annual survey by Iowa State University. Farmland value often represents the largest portion of a farmer’s assets, making up roughly 80% of their total wealth, according to the USDA. …”
 
President Musk is not only cutting cancer research for kids, next up is significant cuts to Social security and Medicare
www.rawstory.com

'They're coming for your Social Security': Alarms raised by new GOP funding plan

Alarms are being raised about new details of Republicans' new plan to keep the government open that experts say will inevitably involve cuts to Social Security and Medicare.Punchbowl News' Jake Sherman reported on Friday that Republican leaders were floating an agreement "that House Republicans...
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heelinhell said:
President Musk is not only cutting cancer research for kids, next up is significant cuts to Social security and Medicare
www.rawstory.com

'They're coming for your Social Security': Alarms raised by new GOP funding plan

Alarms are being raised about new details of Republicans' new plan to keep the government open that experts say will inevitably involve cuts to Social Security and Medicare.Punchbowl News' Jake Sherman reported on Friday that Republican leaders were floating an agreement "that House Republicans...
www.rawstory.com www.rawstory.com
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I need to pull my MAGA siblings aside at our family Christmas dinner tomorrow to try to help them understand that we are possibly going to have to be ready to help our parents financially soon. They barely make it month to month on what they pull in the SS.
 
1moretimeagain said:
I wonder if Trump will notice Elon got what he wanted out of the bill while Trump did not.
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Yep. This whole thing was a huge success for Elon, a big loss for Trump, and an absolute embarrassment for congressional Republicans. I see a lot more of that coming in the future. Congressional Dems did fine and if they can stick together, they’ll have many, many more opportunities to be the adults in the room.
 
heelinhell said:
President Musk is not only cutting cancer research for kids, next up is significant cuts to Social security and Medicare
www.rawstory.com

'They're coming for your Social Security': Alarms raised by new GOP funding plan

Alarms are being raised about new details of Republicans' new plan to keep the government open that experts say will inevitably involve cuts to Social Security and Medicare.Punchbowl News' Jake Sherman reported on Friday that Republican leaders were floating an agreement "that House Republicans...
www.rawstory.com www.rawstory.com
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You know, pork
 
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