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I think he'd give his left testicle to be the great liberator.
Cuba on the clock
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Rubio’s team sees the younger Castro as part of a pragmatic generation potentially open to reshaping Cuba’s future — including improved ties with the U.S.
"They're looking for the next Delcy in Cuba," a source familiar with the talks said.
I thought he’d already given his balls to Trump?
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From Sunday
WINTER IN HAVANA
Jesse Horst for NACLA:
"The last weeks of January were historically cold in this city of eternal summer, coloring it with a touch of the surreal. “It’s el carnaval de los pobres,” a friend tells me. “This is when people who don’t have winter clothes put on absolutely everything they have.” I bike past a man wearing yellow socks and sweatpants topped with shorts. Another dons a full-body snowsuit saved from the former Soviet Union. Waves crash over the malecón as temperatures dip into the 50s. I find myself wearing my own strange combinations. In the chill, there is a sense that normal constraints have washed away.
It is not just the weather in Havana that is out of sync. Since the U.S. commando raid on January 3 that led to the capture of Venezuelan president Nicolás Maduro and the death of 32 Cuban members of his security detail, changes within Cuba have been constant and unpredictable. “If I lived in Havana, and I was in the government, I’d be concerned,” declared U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio, the son of Cuban immigrants. Cuban authorities marked the deaths with a period of national mourning, punctuated by fiery speeches. In the following weeks, heightened political mobilization, increased blackouts, and deteriorating services unfolded beneath chatter about the possibility of a “deal” between the Cuban government and Donald Trump. These tensions escalated in February as the White House threatened debilitating tariffs on any country that shipped oil to Cuba. Coming amid naval actions against unregistered tankers and longstanding economic sanctions, Cuban officials face limited options as oil and gas gradually disappears.
Worry and Adaptation
I have lived in Havana for more than 10 years as a researcher and director of a study abroad program for U.S. students, who arrived for this surreal semester on January 31. What is difficult to convey to those outside is how the perception of these changes is marked by a messy collage of disorientation and tense normalcy as society grinds to a halt. News of change arrives in a fractured media environment, channeled through spotty internet, amid blackouts that alter daily rhythms. Unlike the Special Period of the 1990s, the impact of the crisis is delivered to Cuba’s overlapping social layers with spectacular inequality, though even the most privileged strata are not immune. And despite all that, many normal activities go on….
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WINTER IN HAVANA
Jesse Horst for NACLA:
"The last weeks of January were historically cold in this city of eternal summer, coloring it with a touch of the surreal. “It’s el carnaval de los pobres,” a friend tells me. “This is when people who don’t have winter clothes put on absolutely everything they have.” I bike past a man wearing yellow socks and sweatpants topped with shorts. Another dons a full-body snowsuit saved from the former Soviet Union. Waves crash over the malecón as temperatures dip into the 50s. I find myself wearing my own strange combinations. In the chill, there is a sense that normal constraints have washed away.
It is not just the weather in Havana that is out of sync. Since the U.S. commando raid on January 3 that led to the capture of Venezuelan president Nicolás Maduro and the death of 32 Cuban members of his security detail, changes within Cuba have been constant and unpredictable. “If I lived in Havana, and I was in the government, I’d be concerned,” declared U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio, the son of Cuban immigrants. Cuban authorities marked the deaths with a period of national mourning, punctuated by fiery speeches. In the following weeks, heightened political mobilization, increased blackouts, and deteriorating services unfolded beneath chatter about the possibility of a “deal” between the Cuban government and Donald Trump. These tensions escalated in February as the White House threatened debilitating tariffs on any country that shipped oil to Cuba. Coming amid naval actions against unregistered tankers and longstanding economic sanctions, Cuban officials face limited options as oil and gas gradually disappears.
Worry and Adaptation
I have lived in Havana for more than 10 years as a researcher and director of a study abroad program for U.S. students, who arrived for this surreal semester on January 31. What is difficult to convey to those outside is how the perception of these changes is marked by a messy collage of disorientation and tense normalcy as society grinds to a halt. News of change arrives in a fractured media environment, channeled through spotty internet, amid blackouts that alter daily rhythms. Unlike the Special Period of the 1990s, the impact of the crisis is delivered to Cuba’s overlapping social layers with spectacular inequality, though even the most privileged strata are not immune. And despite all that, many normal activities go on….
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Worry and adaptation mix in Havana as blackouts of 12, 16, 14 hours set in, mixed with unexpected days of virtually no blackouts. Rental houses scramble to install batteries and solar panels. A skyscraper is equipped with a generator for its elevator. Between power cuts, the Havana Jazz Festival goes on. The city fills with musicians of stunning virtuosity. Tourists appear out of nowhere. Crowds ignore rumors of a power outage in the National Theater to hear pianist Robert Fonseca close the festival with high energy. Yet even Fonseca looks stressed, at one point furiously waving off dueling saxophone solos, tapping his watch.
News comes as a speculative trickle, filtered through social media. People talk, but no one knows. An intriguing post describes back-channel negotiations. Is it verified? A local santera writes of Neptune moving from Pisces to Aries, towards impulse, conquest, fire, the culmination of a long cycle.
For days after Trump threatened Cuba’s oil suppliers with tariffs on January 29, there was little official Cuban acknowledgement of the circumstances visibly changing around us. Many I talk to bet on aid from China or Russia, though at the necessary scale, this is unlikely. In Vedado, meanwhile, the line for gas purchased in U.S. dollars extends for more than a kilometer. A man tells me he slept there 3 nights. Scuffles break out over line-crashing. Four soldiers guard the tanks. “They’re forming a society here,” a friend jokes.
Just as it seems like news will never come, a speech by President Miguel Díaz-Canel is announced for Thursday, February 6. Professors at the University of Havana reorganize classes to watch, though many cannot for lack of power. In one state institution, workers gather as the president denounces U.S. aggression and calls for “creative resistance,” but after an hour, one exclaims that we need the “pollo of the arroz con pollo.” The speech offers little clarity about concrete plans to address the mounting crisis. Soon after, I receive messages from the University of Havana that in person classes are suspended. Taxis become scarce. Flights from Canada and Russia end as jet fuel runs out. The gas lines are now gone because there is little gas.
Yet as the sun emerges from the clouds, impatience is more common than panic: “This will be fine,” my neighbor says. “They say so many things, it’s hard to tell how bad it really is,” says another. “Either they come in and change things this year, or I’m leaving,” one contact tells me. “They’re finally proving that the blockade is real,” says another. Vegetables are sold on the street. The local gym is packed. Impoverished elderly people sift through trash heaps. Cars circulate on emptier streets. Restaurants serve gourmet food and play music to emptier rooms. Private enterprises will import fuel, government ministers hint. The jazz clubs will be open. After wind and rain, everything seems poised for change, and everything stays the same.
Crossing the Rubicon
Will everything continue to stay the same? These days are filled with rumors that Raúl Castro’s son, Alejandro, or his grandson Raúl, are negotiating with U.S. officials in a reprise of the Obama administration’s secret talks in the 2010s. Day after day, Trump repeats that a deal with Cuba is close. On the surface, the chance seems slim. Rubio once called President Obama’s Cuba negotiations a “reward” for “repressive tactics.” Cuban diplomats announce that they will not negotiate their political or economic system.
Yet in raising Cuba to the top of his agenda so quickly, Rubio has crossed a Rubicon with few precedents. Like Obama in 2014, he looks to move beyond the status quo of sanctions and heated rhetoric, where hardline politicians from both Cuba and Florida feel comfortable. Backing down will not be easy, and aggressive platitudes will not lead to change.
Despite Cuba’s difficult position, Rubio faces constraints. If he pushes too hard, a humanitarian crisis will generate instability and backlash. The U.S. public seems unlikely to tolerate a violent military occupation focused on nation building. Such a project could generate blowback across the Western Hemisphere and give the revolution new life. Whatever the results, the Trump administration will own them.
There is also a real possibility that Cuban officials may adapt to even these harshest of restrictions. The notion that Cuba mostly suffers from an “internal blockade” of government control, often repeated by government critics, is hard to sustain as oil tankers are seized. In the short term, solar power cannot solve the energy crisis, but in the long term it probably can. Midterm elections in the United States could alter Trump’s calculus.
Yet adaptation cannot minimize the crisis Cuba faces. Political survival for current leaders is one thing, but quality of life for the population is another.
The Specter of Economic Engagement
As the Trump Administration and Cuban leaders talk behind the scenes, many things may happen, but a central truth remains. It is not sanctions or humanitarian catastrophes that strike fear into those who have opposed change on both sides. Instead, it is the specter of economic engagement.
What we know of this specter comes from a brief glimpse, during the last years of Obama’s presidency, as both sides opened the door to deep investment in Cuba’s private sector. It led to a Cuba with significant openings in commerce and travel, as well as widespread cultural exchange with the United States. This was a Cuba where state control over daily life diminished. Cosmopolitan intellectuals crowded onto the lanchita de Regla to hear rappers craft poetry about freedom, planeloads of Mexican initiates travelled to Havana’s peripheries for Santeria ceremonies, X Alfonso’s Fabrica de Arte night club showcased critical art and music unaffiliated with the state, empowered taxi drivers staged protests in front of the Capitolio against rising gas prices. In this Cuba, the circulation of money refused to stay within Cruise ship itineraries and state-run resorts. Visitors preferred private casas over hotels, even before U.S. restrictions. Private restaurants and clubs owned by Cuban Americans from Miami dotted Havana’s trendiest corners.
At the time, political scientist Jorge Domínguez called Obama’s focus on the Cuban private sector “a bet” that, for Obama, investment could lead to democratization, and, for Raúl Castro, this same investment would strengthen socialism and his own power. Naïve observers like me dared to dream the bet could be won by both sides, that socialism, prosperity, and democracy could coexist.
Donald Trump’s election and Fidel Castro’s death in 2016 set off parallel retreats, even as travel from the U.S. continued to surge. U.S. restrictions limited investment and tourist activity. On the Cuban side, half-hearted efforts at political and economic reform were smothered by baffling restrictions and the prioritization of central planning, even at the expense of the welfare state. More than any U.S. hostility, there is a direct line between the era’s naive dreams and the cruel, pandemic-driven hangover that ended in disorganized mass protests on July 11, 2021. These were the largest protests since the early years of the revolution, and they triggered the largest wave of emigration in Cuban history in the following years.
Prospects for a Deal
News comes as a speculative trickle, filtered through social media. People talk, but no one knows. An intriguing post describes back-channel negotiations. Is it verified? A local santera writes of Neptune moving from Pisces to Aries, towards impulse, conquest, fire, the culmination of a long cycle.
For days after Trump threatened Cuba’s oil suppliers with tariffs on January 29, there was little official Cuban acknowledgement of the circumstances visibly changing around us. Many I talk to bet on aid from China or Russia, though at the necessary scale, this is unlikely. In Vedado, meanwhile, the line for gas purchased in U.S. dollars extends for more than a kilometer. A man tells me he slept there 3 nights. Scuffles break out over line-crashing. Four soldiers guard the tanks. “They’re forming a society here,” a friend jokes.
Just as it seems like news will never come, a speech by President Miguel Díaz-Canel is announced for Thursday, February 6. Professors at the University of Havana reorganize classes to watch, though many cannot for lack of power. In one state institution, workers gather as the president denounces U.S. aggression and calls for “creative resistance,” but after an hour, one exclaims that we need the “pollo of the arroz con pollo.” The speech offers little clarity about concrete plans to address the mounting crisis. Soon after, I receive messages from the University of Havana that in person classes are suspended. Taxis become scarce. Flights from Canada and Russia end as jet fuel runs out. The gas lines are now gone because there is little gas.
Yet as the sun emerges from the clouds, impatience is more common than panic: “This will be fine,” my neighbor says. “They say so many things, it’s hard to tell how bad it really is,” says another. “Either they come in and change things this year, or I’m leaving,” one contact tells me. “They’re finally proving that the blockade is real,” says another. Vegetables are sold on the street. The local gym is packed. Impoverished elderly people sift through trash heaps. Cars circulate on emptier streets. Restaurants serve gourmet food and play music to emptier rooms. Private enterprises will import fuel, government ministers hint. The jazz clubs will be open. After wind and rain, everything seems poised for change, and everything stays the same.
Crossing the Rubicon
Will everything continue to stay the same? These days are filled with rumors that Raúl Castro’s son, Alejandro, or his grandson Raúl, are negotiating with U.S. officials in a reprise of the Obama administration’s secret talks in the 2010s. Day after day, Trump repeats that a deal with Cuba is close. On the surface, the chance seems slim. Rubio once called President Obama’s Cuba negotiations a “reward” for “repressive tactics.” Cuban diplomats announce that they will not negotiate their political or economic system.
Yet in raising Cuba to the top of his agenda so quickly, Rubio has crossed a Rubicon with few precedents. Like Obama in 2014, he looks to move beyond the status quo of sanctions and heated rhetoric, where hardline politicians from both Cuba and Florida feel comfortable. Backing down will not be easy, and aggressive platitudes will not lead to change.
Despite Cuba’s difficult position, Rubio faces constraints. If he pushes too hard, a humanitarian crisis will generate instability and backlash. The U.S. public seems unlikely to tolerate a violent military occupation focused on nation building. Such a project could generate blowback across the Western Hemisphere and give the revolution new life. Whatever the results, the Trump administration will own them.
There is also a real possibility that Cuban officials may adapt to even these harshest of restrictions. The notion that Cuba mostly suffers from an “internal blockade” of government control, often repeated by government critics, is hard to sustain as oil tankers are seized. In the short term, solar power cannot solve the energy crisis, but in the long term it probably can. Midterm elections in the United States could alter Trump’s calculus.
Yet adaptation cannot minimize the crisis Cuba faces. Political survival for current leaders is one thing, but quality of life for the population is another.
The Specter of Economic Engagement
As the Trump Administration and Cuban leaders talk behind the scenes, many things may happen, but a central truth remains. It is not sanctions or humanitarian catastrophes that strike fear into those who have opposed change on both sides. Instead, it is the specter of economic engagement.
What we know of this specter comes from a brief glimpse, during the last years of Obama’s presidency, as both sides opened the door to deep investment in Cuba’s private sector. It led to a Cuba with significant openings in commerce and travel, as well as widespread cultural exchange with the United States. This was a Cuba where state control over daily life diminished. Cosmopolitan intellectuals crowded onto the lanchita de Regla to hear rappers craft poetry about freedom, planeloads of Mexican initiates travelled to Havana’s peripheries for Santeria ceremonies, X Alfonso’s Fabrica de Arte night club showcased critical art and music unaffiliated with the state, empowered taxi drivers staged protests in front of the Capitolio against rising gas prices. In this Cuba, the circulation of money refused to stay within Cruise ship itineraries and state-run resorts. Visitors preferred private casas over hotels, even before U.S. restrictions. Private restaurants and clubs owned by Cuban Americans from Miami dotted Havana’s trendiest corners.
At the time, political scientist Jorge Domínguez called Obama’s focus on the Cuban private sector “a bet” that, for Obama, investment could lead to democratization, and, for Raúl Castro, this same investment would strengthen socialism and his own power. Naïve observers like me dared to dream the bet could be won by both sides, that socialism, prosperity, and democracy could coexist.
Donald Trump’s election and Fidel Castro’s death in 2016 set off parallel retreats, even as travel from the U.S. continued to surge. U.S. restrictions limited investment and tourist activity. On the Cuban side, half-hearted efforts at political and economic reform were smothered by baffling restrictions and the prioritization of central planning, even at the expense of the welfare state. More than any U.S. hostility, there is a direct line between the era’s naive dreams and the cruel, pandemic-driven hangover that ended in disorganized mass protests on July 11, 2021. These were the largest protests since the early years of the revolution, and they triggered the largest wave of emigration in Cuban history in the following years.
Prospects for a Deal
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In a just world, Cuba would not face coercion from a Trump administration that invades its own cities, flouts international law, and threatens even its allies. Yet Cuban leaders also face an entrenched crisis of legitimacy largely of their own making. This is a dark moment, but it may hold unique possibilities.
As the dust settles from Maduro’s capture, Rubio appears open to the idea that economic engagement can be more a productive political lever than troops in Venezuela. He now has unprecedented credibility to convince the Cuban American community of this same hard truth. Cuba has signaled a willingness to collaborate on national security issues. Foreign investment in Cuban Hotels is technically already open. Cuba’s national assembly is already home to several de-facto political groupings, even as the single party mandate limits their organization. Restaurants and boutique hotels are already owned by Cubans who are also U.S. citizens. Ending sanctions would disorient authoritarian tendencies in Cuba. There are many deals to be made.
If Cuban leaders navigate pragmatically, they may have an historic opportunity to reduce U.S. sanctions, potentially more than in negotiations with Obama. Any deal with Democrats will weaken as Florida Republicans get closer to power. A deal from Miami’s own Secretary of State, however, could be delivered persuasively to all but the most hardline factions of the Cuban American community.
For both sides the path of negotiation is uncertain. The likely outcome is neither regime change favored by Rubio nor rigid control of the economy favored by Cuban powerbrokers. Yet as the dark, winter carnival lifts and all things seem possible, why not step into the unknown?"
~Juno Diaz
Winter in Havana
As the dust settles from Maduro’s capture, Rubio appears open to the idea that economic engagement can be more a productive political lever than troops in Venezuela. He now has unprecedented credibility to convince the Cuban American community of this same hard truth. Cuba has signaled a willingness to collaborate on national security issues. Foreign investment in Cuban Hotels is technically already open. Cuba’s national assembly is already home to several de-facto political groupings, even as the single party mandate limits their organization. Restaurants and boutique hotels are already owned by Cubans who are also U.S. citizens. Ending sanctions would disorient authoritarian tendencies in Cuba. There are many deals to be made.
If Cuban leaders navigate pragmatically, they may have an historic opportunity to reduce U.S. sanctions, potentially more than in negotiations with Obama. Any deal with Democrats will weaken as Florida Republicans get closer to power. A deal from Miami’s own Secretary of State, however, could be delivered persuasively to all but the most hardline factions of the Cuban American community.
For both sides the path of negotiation is uncertain. The likely outcome is neither regime change favored by Rubio nor rigid control of the economy favored by Cuban powerbrokers. Yet as the dark, winter carnival lifts and all things seem possible, why not step into the unknown?"
~Juno Diaz
Winter in Havana
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Cuban Government Says 4 Are Killed in Gunfire Exchange on Florida Speedboat
The Cuban government said it exchanged gunfire with a Florida-based speedboat that had entered its territorial waters Wednesday, killing at least four people and wounding six others. The vessel approached within one nautical mile northeast of the El Pino channel north of Corralillo, a town in the...
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