CURRENT EVENTS - May 8-13

[superrific]

I can’t help but feel that the industrial policy piece had been severely lacking from the Democratic Party’s political priorities prior to 2020. That is something that has to be consistently messaged and it just hasn’t been, even after the IRA and CHIPS. I don’t know whether Gore would’ve helped had he won in 2000.

The worst thing that happened in this regard was "I'm with her." HRC was a flawed candidate, but her campaign was worse. And I'm not really talking about the infamous decision to go to AZ rather than MI or WI. I'm talking about earlier, when the campaign defined itself as about making history for women, not policies.

I'm not sure that would have changed the election result, but it certainly did shape the way Dems talked about industrial policy post-Obama.

 

[Paine]

The worst thing that happened in this regard was "I'm with her." HRC was a flawed candidate, but her campaign was worse. And I'm not really talking about the infamous decision to go to AZ rather than MI or WI. I'm talking about earlier, when the campaign defined itself as about making history for women, not policies.

I'm not sure that would have changed the election result, but it certainly did shape the way Dems talked about industrial policy post-Obama.

Agreed. Clinton actually had some good to great policy proposals, but she never seemed to talk about them on the trail. I think she was uniquely unsuited for the moment. Maybe a better campaign would’ve helped her, but I’m not sure it wasn’t just baked into her as a politician by 2016.

 

[Silence Dogood]

 

[Silence Dogood]

 

[Silence Dogood]

 

[finesse]

Did they just auction off Trump?

 

[Silence Dogood]

 

[Paine]

Is there any particular reason why the mods continue to allow a Russian propagandist to operate on this message board?

 

[Icky Mettle]

Is there any particular reason why the mods continue to allow a Russian propagandist to operate on this message board?

I’m pretty sure that poster is just posting the things that people can make fun of at the expense of those who post it and/or believe it.

 

[ZZLPHeels]

It is so nice that the Trump administration replaced the brown Christian refugees that it sent to Afghanistan and Iran to be executed with smiling white people. Adolf would be proud. Elon is proud.

 

[WaynetheDrain]

You were actually proud to post this?

My God, you are a piece of shit human being.

Can you explain what makes these people different than the hundreds of thousand people from South American countries that seek asylum every year? Trump has put a halt to all asylum requests, yet rolls out the red carpet for these folks. Why is that? How are they different?

And don’t bother with the BS about them getting moved off their land. Aside from the fact there isn’t any evidence that’s happened, the folks who seek asylum from other countries also have no land or place to call home. So there is no difference there.

What about religious freedom? Also a load of bullshit. Like the folks that migrate from Central and South America aren’t among the most openly religious people on earth. So no difference there.

What else makes this group of people “special” enough in Donald Trump’s eyes to warrant the red carpet treatment while folks from south of the border are greeted with a wall and accusations of criminality?

I know the answer. And so do you.

Explain it to me, please.

 

[1moretimeagain]

Must have been quite a process to convince Trump that a group of people called “Afrikaners” have white skin.

 

[Paine]

I’m pretty sure that poster is just posting the things that people can make fun of at the expense of those who post it and/or believe it.

Idk, there’s something weird about him.

 

[finesse]

Must have been quite a process to convince Trump that a group of people called “Afrikaners” have white skin.

Drumpf might have family there.

 

[Bobfripp]

This brings tears to my eyes ... tears, streaming down my cheeks. And I'm a big strong man ... with tears in my eyes. LMAO.

 

[StrangePackage]

It is so nice that the Trump administration replaced the brown Christian refugees that it sent to Afghanistan and Iran to be executed with smiling white people. Adolf would be proud. Elon is proud.

Wait until these folks find out that these immigrants are taking their jobs at Cross burnings...

 

[Geisterfahrer]

I've heard a few pretty good theories, including some articles posted here. By "good", I mean they make sense; I can see the mechanism by which the cause causes the effect. "Woke" isn't one of them. My God, everything bad is caused by woke. Remember the wokeism that caused the ship to hit the bridge in Baltimore? Remember the wokeism that caused the plane crash in DC? That is mind-numbingly stupid. By the way, Boeing is headquartered in VA, not "woke" Seattle.

One good theory that I have heard is that management decoupled from engineering and operations when they moved HQ to Chicago and then VA. Now that doesn't mean the move caused the decoupling, rather it was part of the decoupling. They lost focus on building good planes. Hopefully they can "couple" again. America needs it.

Full disclosure: My opinion certainly has some unconscious bias. In my case, it is the bias of an engineer who has been in development and manufacturing for over 30 years.

Apropos of nothing and despite all Boeing’s troubles, I still think the 787 is a great plane.

 

[Silence Dogood]

You were actually proud to post this?

My God, you are a piece of shit human being.

Can you explain what makes these people different than the hundreds of thousand people from South American countries that seek asylum every year? Trump has put a halt to all asylum requests, yet rolls out the red carpet for these folks. Why is that? How are they different?

And don’t bother with the BS about them getting moved off their land. Aside from the fact there isn’t any evidence that’s happened, the folks who seek asylum from other countries also have no land or place to call home. So there is no difference there.

What about religious freedom? Also a load of bullshit. Like the folks that migrate from Central and South America aren’t among the most openly religious people on earth. So no difference there.

What else makes this group of people “special” enough in Donald Trump’s eyes to warrant the red carpet treatment while folks from south of the border are greeted with a wall and accusations of criminality?

I know the answer. And so do you.

Explain it to me, please.

Genocide

 

[farce©]

A tip of the hat to ZZLers on this thread for essentially ignoring the garbage posted by Silence Dogood here and continuing the ongoing conversation. The lack of response to his bullshit kept the troll from derailing the thread. I wish I could say the same about the board’s ability to ignore ZenMode.

Thank you!

 

[finesse]

A tip of the hat to ZZLers on this thread for essentially ignoring the garbage posted by Silence Dogood here and continuing the ongoing conversation. The lack of response to his bullshit kept the troll from derailing the thread. I wish I could say the same about the board’s ability to ignore ZenMode.

Thank you!

Seriously, how could you not appreciate Zen's take on tariffs and Japanese cars the other day. You can't get that particular kind of take from just anybody.