DeSantis Is Serious About Ending Property Taxes in FL—but Will It Work and Who Will Pay the $40 Billion Difference?

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I haven't seen this discussed elsewhere. More magic accounting by Republicans designed to give massive tax breaks to the wealthiest among us while hoodwinking the working class fools who support them. Link

"Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis is doubling down on his push to eliminate property taxes in the state, raising questions about how key services would be funded if the effort is successful.

At a press conference on Monday, DeSantis reiterated his support for measures to limit or ban the collection of property taxes at the local level in Florida, which bring in more than $40 billion for the state each year.

"Just for being on your property, you’ve got to write a check to the government every year, so you're basically paying rent to the government to live on your own property," he said. "We're going to be really looking at ways to bring people relief from that, because I think it's been really something that's pinching a lot of homeowners, particularly seniors on fixed income."
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Numerous economic studies have found that property taxes are among the least damaging forms of taxation—in other words, taxes on real property have less of a negative impact on economic growth when compared to the same revenue raised by sales or income taxes.

Florida is one of seven states that has no income tax, meaning that if property taxes were eliminated, sales taxes, fines, and fees would be the main ways to make up the difference. Florida already has a 6% general sales tax, and the Florida Policy Institute estimates that it would have to be doubled to 12% to make up the revenue shortfall from eliminating property taxes.

A 12% sales tax would be the highest in the nation, and FPI argues that such a high tax on basic goods and services would “disproportionately and negatively” impact households with low to moderate incomes. Tourists, who contribute 14% of all sales tax revenue, and businesses, who pay 20%, would also be hard-hit by the increase, the think tank said.

However, DeSantis responded to the FPI report by insisting that he would not raise sales taxes. "I’m pretty sure the Legislature would not raise the sales tax and I’m quite certain I'd veto any increase," DeSantis commented on X."
 
So if he eliminates property taxes at the local level, how does Miami pay for their City services? Trash collection, police and fire?
 
So if he eliminates property taxes at the local level, how does Miami pay for their City services? Trash collection, police and fire?
Increased local sales taxes which are regressive and most onerous for the poor. They would also negatively impact tourism, Florida's biggest industry. Republican politicians have an incredible knack for advocating stupid shit.
 
So if he eliminates property taxes at the local level, how does Miami pay for their City services? Trash collection, police and fire?
Local sales tax increases? So rural areas would just eliminate services and lean on fines to fund policing but not much else, while cities would have to have massive local sales tax increases because a functioning city requires such services.

But how would they pay for schools? State sales taxes combine with local property taxes and federal funds to fund public schools K-12. If there are no more property taxes and no increase in state sales taxes, how are schools funded?

Also, Florida just removed the income cap for their growing public school voucher system (which parents to apply vouchers at private schools and for home-schooling costs), though I think they still have a max number of available vouchers per year and wealthier families have lower priority than others if more people apply than there are available vouchers. I suspect the next step would be eliminate public schools and just give each child a voucher of whatever is available from sales taxes to figure out how to buy K-12 education.
 
Didn’t he also say he would not increase sales taxes? I don’t live in Florida, do local Governments have the ability to increase sales taxes on their own?
 
Local sales tax increases? So rural areas would just eliminate services and lean on fines to fund policing but not much else, while cities would have to have massive local sales tax increases because a functioning city requires such services.

But how would they pay for schools? State sales taxes combine with local property taxes and federal funds to fund public schools K-12. If there are no more property taxes and no increase in state sales taxes, how are schools funded?

Also, Florida just removed the income cap for their growing public school voucher system (which parents to apply vouchers at private schools and for home-schooling costs), though I think they still have a max number of available vouchers per year and wealthier families have lower priority than others if more people apply than there are available vouchers. I suspect the next step would be eliminate public schools and just give each child a voucher of whatever is available from sales taxes to figure out how to buy K-12 education.
A true oligarchic concentration of power, through a race to the bottom methodology.
 
The federal government can borrow to fund services and personnel. Florida can't. No free rides. Either services get cut or revenues have to increase to pay for the shortfall.
 
Damn that would be great for my Florida properties. Property taxes are high there so it would save me $$$ and likely increase the values. At this point, 33% of the country is going to end up relocating and living in Fla.
 
I haven't seen this discussed elsewhere. More magic accounting by Republicans designed to give massive tax breaks to the wealthiest among us while hoodwinking the working class fools who support them. Link

"Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis is doubling down on his push to eliminate property taxes in the state, raising questions about how key services would be funded if the effort is successful.

At a press conference on Monday, DeSantis reiterated his support for measures to limit or ban the collection of property taxes at the local level in Florida, which bring in more than $40 billion for the state each year.

"Just for being on your property, you’ve got to write a check to the government every year, so you're basically paying rent to the government to live on your own property," he said. "We're going to be really looking at ways to bring people relief from that, because I think it's been really something that's pinching a lot of homeowners, particularly seniors on fixed income."
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Numerous economic studies have found that property taxes are among the least damaging forms of taxation—in other words, taxes on real property have less of a negative impact on economic growth when compared to the same revenue raised by sales or income taxes.

Florida is one of seven states that has no income tax, meaning that if property taxes were eliminated, sales taxes, fines, and fees would be the main ways to make up the difference. Florida already has a 6% general sales tax, and the Florida Policy Institute estimates that it would have to be doubled to 12% to make up the revenue shortfall from eliminating property taxes.

A 12% sales tax would be the highest in the nation, and FPI argues that such a high tax on basic goods and services would “disproportionately and negatively” impact households with low to moderate incomes. Tourists, who contribute 14% of all sales tax revenue, and businesses, who pay 20%, would also be hard-hit by the increase, the think tank said.

However, DeSantis responded to the FPI report by insisting that he would not raise sales taxes. "I’m pretty sure the Legislature would not raise the sales tax and I’m quite certain I'd veto any increase," DeSantis commented on X."
Another well though out tax plan that fully considers the basic rules that someone has to pay for services and money doesn't grow on trees.
 
Damn that would be great for my Florida properties. Property taxes are high there so it would save me $$$ and likely increase the values. At this point, 33% of the country is going to end up relocating and living in Fla.
As expected, republicans look for how it benefits them and don't look at the bigger picture.

Why would 33% of the country end up in Fla?
 
Damn that would be great for my Florida properties. Property taxes are high there so it would save me $$$ and likely increase the values. At this point, 33% of the country is going to end up relocating and living in Fla.
I realize you are trolling, but how do you reckon they will pay for cops and firemen, much less schools?
 
So if he eliminates property taxes at the local level, how does Miami pay for their City services? Trash collection, police and fire?
Just privatize and let the residents figure it out. They do such a good job maintaining the condos, I'm sure they will have no problem handling city services.
 
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