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superrific said:
LOL. I mean, you're not wrong. It's just that we're in a place where FOIA non-compliance is almost an afterthought. Remember when it was a big deal when Trump was flushing docs down the toilet?
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I mean absolutely.

But it's just they are like oh no it's only that the reporter got added that's the problem...

They were using an illegal app in the first place. And SIGNAL OWNS THE DATA lol

They own the communication sent. It's hilarious
 
CFordUNC said:
Well, now, wait one dadgum minute. Which is it? Was it intentionally leaked to send a message to Europe, or was it a total sham hoax by a washed up fake news “journalist” who didn’t actually have the texts because the texts never actually existed?
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C’mon man. By this point you know the hypocrisy is the point.
 
superrific said:
For real?
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They say it's never recoverable other than on the phone. But that's kind of the issue that government communications are supposed to have records. While it's in their app it's theirs

And so it's in the grey area where the government doesn't own it. But signal owns its app and the transmission across is, even if they say the data is decentralized. It's got its own vulnerabilities
 
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CFordUNC said:
But Joe Biden! But Hillary! But Democrats! But the woke! But the transgenders!
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There were TV ads in Texas before the 2024 election mixtaping/conflating transgenders, (in) the military, and (illegal) border crossings/migrants. Nothing about the economy, which Trump has wrecked.
 
www.nytimes.com

After Signal Leak, Vance Focuses on Proving His Loyalty to Trump

After the revelation that he was part of a secret chat, Vice President JD Vance’s focus wasn’t on the security breach. Instead, it seemed to be concern that he had questioned his boss.
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When others argued in favor of the strikes [on the Houthis], Mr. Vance said he would support them but added, “I just hate bailing Europe out again.”

Well, Europe hates you back, dweeb. What a pompous twit, as if it's Vance himself bailing out Europe.
 
CFordUNC said:
Well, now, wait one dadgum minute. Which is it? Was it intentionally leaked to send a message to Europe, or was it a total sham hoax by a washed up fake news “journalist” who didn’t actually have the texts because the texts never actually existed?
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Yes. Depending on how dishonest / crazy you are, it was either one or it was the other.
 
ZenMode said:
Yes. Depending on how dishonest / crazy you are, it was either one or it was the other.
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Agreed.

But for those of us who are not dishonest and who are not crazy, we know that it 1. did happen, 2. is an inexcusable and unacceptable breach of national security at the highest level, and 3. Should – but won’t – result in firings, impeachments, and/or resignations.
 
superrific said:
Can someone help me out with one aspect of the story? Goldberg has the text messages and has published at least some of them, correct?

Then what the fuck is Pete Hegseth doing denying it? Obviously they lie and lie shamelessly, but the guy has the fucking texts! I'm confused. Or maybe Hegseth is.
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Roy Cohn: DENY, DENY, DENY. ATTACK, ATTACK, ATTACK. LIE, LIE, LIE. LIE and ATTACK more.
 
CFordUNC said:
Agreed.

But for those of us who are not dishonest and who are not crazy, we know that it 1. did happen, 2. is an inexcusable and unacceptable breach of national security at the highest level, and 3. Should – but won’t – result in firings, impeachments, and/or resignations.
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When's the last time anyone was held accountable for mishandling sensitive/classified info?
 
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