đź‘€ Waltz, SecDef SignalGate | More Waltz Signal chats

  • Thread starter Thread starter nycfan
  • Start date Start date
  • Replies: 437
  • Views: 8K
  • Politics 
I already knew these were a cadre of dangerous incompetents. I now know they actually do smell their own farts - it’s not just public personas. Jfc, they couldn’t help themselves from propagandizing in a conversation about fucking military tactics?

Also, even in the political version of the Atacama, magabots will find a way to carry water.
 
Last edited:
1. Walz should be fired for starting the Signal chat in the first place. He would be court-martialed if he wore a uniform. Accidentally inviting a journalist is the inevitable outcome of lax operational security.
2. Hegseth should be fired for posting war plans prior to their implementation. Again, this is a court-martial offense and is likely a violation of the Espionage Act.
3. The candor used by the officials in the chat is a clear tell that they are using Signal for other sensitive policy discussions. This is an incredible security breach. Most of these guys - Ratcliffe, Walz, Rubio - aren't amateurs. It is simply jaw-dropping.
4. Five eyes just became effectively four eyes. Why would an ally share anything with this group of arrogant clowns?
 
Last edited:
I bet you any amount of money our resident Trump supporters on this board will be along on this thread any minute- ANY MINUTE NOW!- to condem this unfathomably reckless abuse of national security, easily the worst national security breach in decades. Any moment now! I’ll bet you any amount of money!
 
I bet you any amount of money our resident Trump supporters on this board will be along on this thread any minute- ANY MINUTE NOW!- to condem this unfathomably reckless abuse of national security, easily the worst national security breach in decades. Any moment now! I’ll bet you any amount of money!
I remember the chants. LOCK HER UP! LOCK HER UP! LOCK HER UP!
 
Doesn't matter.

They literally put our soldier's lives in danger, as well as other Americans in danger, with their recklessness.

The House will not impeach anyone. They will get away with it. Nothing changes.

But damn. If you're an enemy of the United States, you're LYAO at our federal government's incompetence. And your spies now know where to look.
 
I remember before the election, a Trump voter telling me that I didn't have to worry about Trump staying past four years because he "willingly" left the White House the first time. Well, the only reason he "willingly" left the White House the first time was because he still had enough staff who were competent and not stupid enough to think it was a good idea to stay past noon on inauguration day with him. I'd say he has corrected that problem this time around.
 
Anyone who remotely (and rightfully) criticized Hillary Clinton- as I did, and still continue to do- for using her own email server should be absolutely furious to the point of apoplexy about this news story. I’m certain our board Trumpers are so angry about this unacceptable breach of national security that they’re too mad to even compose their thoughts. Don’t worry- they’ll be along to condemn this and demand the resignation, impeachment, and/or imprisonment of everyone on that text thread soon. Just you wait!

This OPSEC fail is truly unfathomably astounding, but IMO the content of the messages is arguably worse. It’s like an episode of Veep come to real life. The messages show that:

1. Even at the highest levels, these guys are often left in the dark and wondering what Trump actually wants.

2. Trump himself is not involved in the critical decision-making processes of the government over which he presides (he was golfing in the hours preceding and during the strikes), ones that have direct national security implications.

3. The priority in the aftermath has been the PR spin, not the operations themselves.

4. Even though the purpose of the strikes is to “send a message”, Europe will still need to pay for them, despite not asking for them?

5. And the beyond-cringe use of emojis which, while maybe not a huge deal, demonstrates how truly unprofessional this whole organization is and how unseriously the administration takes things like lethal missile strikes and military actions.
 
…
3. The candor used by the officials in the chat is a clear tell that they are using Signal for other sensitive policy discussions. This is an incredible security breach. Most of these guys - Ratcliffe, Walz, Rubio - aren't amateurs. It is simply jaw-dropping.
This jumped out to me, as well. Everything about that communication indicates this is how they communicate on the regular. Ratcliffe and Hegseth were particularly egregious with the info sharing.

The other thing that jumped out at me was that (1) Vance pretty clearly thought Trump was being impetuous and (2) when the inclusion of Goldberg was exposed, Vance’s only concern seemed to be to claim that he totally has Trump’s back and there is zero disagreement between them.

The extent to which these clowns are still engaging in shallow MAGA platitudes even (they thought?) among themselves was problematic. Unserious turtles all the way down.
 
Someone find the autopen! The board conservatives will certainly be out in force to decry this, given their certainty that Biden was letting other people make his decisions for him.
Great point, he clearly had no knowledge of this, but we already know he's letting others make decisions for him, that's Musk's sole purpose.
 
IMG_5891.jpeg

Tuberville: Trump will clean that up, no need for Congress to exercise its oversight duties here.

Meanwhile, Trump seems to legit have no idea about this report hours after it came out and got massive coverage.

 
This jumped out to me, as well. Everything about that communication indicates this is how they communicate on the regular. Ratcliffe and Hegseth were particularly egregious with the info sharing.

The other thing that jumped out at me was that (1) Vance pretty clearly thought Trump was being impetuous and (2) when the inclusion of Goldberg was exposed, Vance’s only concern seemed to be to claim that he totally has Trump’s back and there is zero disagreement between them.

The extent to which these clowns are still engaging in shallow MAGA platitudes even (they thought?) among themselves was problematic. Unserious turtles all the way down.
Is Putin in the group?
 
Back
Top