Fareed Spot On as usual

[Batt Boy]

CNN host scathingly rebukes Democrats, citing ignorance that put them out of touch with voters: 'They blew it'

CNN host Fareed Zakaria did not mince words in a seven-minutes opening monologue on his show Sunday where he lectured Democrats for being out of touch with American voters.

www.foxnews.com

1-"An asylum system that was meant for a small number of persecuted individuals was being used by millions to gain legal entry. Instead of shutting it down, liberals branded anyone protesting as heartless and racist.

2-overzealous misuse of law to punish Trump.

3-the party's fixation on identity politics, "that largely came out of the urban academic bubble, but alienated many mainstream voters."

 

[ChapelHillSooner]

CNN host scathingly rebukes Democrats, citing ignorance that put them out of touch with voters: 'They blew it'

CNN host Fareed Zakaria did not mince words in a seven-minutes opening monologue on his show Sunday where he lectured Democrats for being out of touch with American voters.

www.foxnews.com

1-"An asylum system that was meant for a small number of persecuted individuals was being used by millions to gain legal entry. Instead of shutting it down, liberals branded anyone protesting as heartless and racist.

2-overzealous misuse of law to punish Trump.

3-the party's fixation on identity politics, "that largely came out of the urban academic bubble, but alienated many mainstream voters."

Correct on 1 except that I believe international law requires that asylum seekers be given the ability to have their claims heard which inherently creates a problem when there are so many of them.

Only correct on 2 with respect to NY state which is not in the control of “Democrats”. All other prosecutions were absolutely justified. To imply that 1/6 or the documents investigation (which involved significant and severe obstruction of justice) is somehow unjust is simply absurd. If voters can’t handle that then, well, we get what we deserve.

3. Depends on what’s meant. If protecting vulnerable groups is identify politics then give me identity politics. If we are talking about things like pronouns, that isn’t something many politicians got involved with.

 

[finesse]

One privileged immigrant saying "I got mine."

Smart man for a weather vane.

 

[dukeman92]

 

[Batt Boy]

I agree Sooner, but I think 3 cuts across the entire country and really hurt nationally. I think most of CNN continues to blame white women, latin men, Obama, too short of a race, inflation - whatever makes them not address their own issues and still feel good - but Fareed gets closer to the reality.

 

[EyeballKid]

CNN host scathingly rebukes Democrats, citing ignorance that put them out of touch with voters: 'They blew it'

CNN host Fareed Zakaria did not mince words in a seven-minutes opening monologue on his show Sunday where he lectured Democrats for being out of touch with American voters.

www.foxnews.com

1-"An asylum system that was meant for a small number of persecuted individuals was being used by millions to gain legal entry. Instead of shutting it down, liberals branded anyone protesting as heartless and racist.

2-overzealous misuse of law to punish Trump.

3-the party's fixation on identity politics, "that largely came out of the urban academic bubble, but alienated many mainstream voters."

1 is an impossibility. I’d expect more from Fareed.

 

[Batt Boy]

One privileged immigrant saying "I got mine."

Smart man for a weather vane.

Fareed's point made

 

[CallMeTyler]

The party that villainizes immigrants, dehumanizes vulnerable groups, and uses the system to delay legal action on illicit and illegal activities by their candidate isn't the problem.

It's the other guys who need to fix their shit.

GFY Fareed. The Democrats certainly have things to address, but this list isn't applicable.

 

[finesse]

Fareed's point made

How about this point?

From fiscal year 2022 to April 2024, there were 365,698 instances in which the asylum applicants were neither ordered removed nor granted asylum or other relief, the clearinghouse’s report said. The clearinghouse’s report categorized the immigration judges’ decisions in those cases as “other remain in U.S.”

Susan Long, a Transactional Records Access Clearinghouse spokesperson, said that the report’s “other” category is a catch-all, including cases in which immigrants were allowed to remain in the U.S. for reasons that did not include being granted relief by an immigration judge.

And here's a collection of charts that makes even 100.000 asylees a gross exaggeration with a breakdown of who they are.

Refugees and Asylees in the United States

U.S. refugee resettlement is slowly increasing after hitting a historic low, rebounding from the Trump administration’s efforts to reduce humanitarian migration as well as pandemic-era restrictions on movement and processing slowdowns. This article offers recent and historical data about...

www.migrationpolicy.org

When a "journalist" misrepresents the facts on asylum so badly, he's lying in his teeth. He's a frontrunner with his eyes on the main chance.

 

[ChapelHillSooner]

The party that villainizes immigrants, dehumanizes vulnerable groups, and uses the system to delay legal action on illicit and illegal activities by their candidate isn't the problem.

It's the other guys who need to fix their shit.

GFY Fareed. The Democrats certainly have things to address, but this list isn't applicable.

Fareed might be correct in the sense that it isn’t getting democrats elected but this is a situation where I want to be wrong.

Republicans have literal Nazis in their ranks and some Democrats use they/them pronouns. If voters have a problem with that then we have already lost our country.

 

[CallMeTyler]

"An asylum system that was meant for a small number of persecuted individuals was being used by millions to gain legal entry. Instead of shutting it down, liberals branded anyone protesting as heartless and racist."

This entire premise is BS. It's less than 100k annually.

Refugees and Asylees in the United States

U.S. refugee resettlement is slowly increasing after hitting a historic low, rebounding from the Trump administration’s efforts to reduce humanitarian migration as well as pandemic-era restrictions on movement and processing slowdowns. This article offers recent and historical data about...

www.migrationpolicy.org

Edit: And Finesse touched on this above.

 

[Icky Mettle]

I agree Sooner, but I think 3 cuts across the entire country and really hurt nationally. I think most of CNN continues to blame white women, latin men, Obama, too short of a race, inflation - whatever makes them not address their own issues and still feel good - but Fareed gets closer to the reality.

The thing is, democrats running at the federal level aren’t campaigning on those identity issues that republicans are projecting onto them.

 

[lawtig02]

CNN host scathingly rebukes Democrats, citing ignorance that put them out of touch with voters: 'They blew it'

CNN host Fareed Zakaria did not mince words in a seven-minutes opening monologue on his show Sunday where he lectured Democrats for being out of touch with American voters.

www.foxnews.com

1-"An asylum system that was meant for a small number of persecuted individuals was being used by millions to gain legal entry. Instead of shutting it down, liberals branded anyone protesting as heartless and racist.

2-overzealous misuse of law to punish Trump.

3-the party's fixation on identity politics, "that largely came out of the urban academic bubble, but alienated many mainstream voters."

So, your first point is that we should be treating migrants who cross the border illegally as the criminals they are, and your second point is that we shouldn't treat the head of the GOP as the criminal he is? Does that really make sense to you?

 

[Mundial]

Did he plagiarize these ideas too?

Fareed Zakaria - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[whatntarnation]

When people are desperate for answers, a wrong answer can be better then no answer.

Young people are desperate for answers. they are seeing their economic future fade away.

Trump said immigration is the problem, Its not. income inequality is the problem but the Democrats said nothing,

Fareed's points had very little affect on the outcome.

 

[lawtig02]

Trump said immigration is the problem, Its not. income inequality is the problem but the Democrats said nothing,

???

BUILDING A STRONGER, FAIRER ECONOMY - Democrats

democrats.org

But our economy was rigged against working families and the middle class even before the novel coronavirus sickened millions and killed more than 150,000 Americans and counting. Working families’ incomes have been largely stagnant for decades, while the cost of basic needs—from housing to health care, higher education to child care—keep rising at precipitous rates. Meanwhile, the rich have been capturing a larger and larger share of the economic pie, with incomes for the top one percent growing five times faster than those of the bottom 90 percent.

* * *

The U.S. economy is rigged against the American people. Time after time, President Trump and the Republicans have rewarded big corporations and their wealthy donors, and left working families behind. Democrats will take decisive action to level the playing field for people of color, working families, women, small business owners, and others who have been left on the sidelines.

 

[whatntarnation]

???

BUILDING A STRONGER, FAIRER ECONOMY - Democrats

democrats.org

But our economy was rigged against working families and the middle class even before the novel coronavirus sickened millions and killed more than 150,000 Americans and counting. Working families’ incomes have been largely stagnant for decades, while the cost of basic needs—from housing to health care, higher education to child care—keep rising at precipitous rates. Meanwhile, the rich have been capturing a larger and larger share of the economic pie, with incomes for the top one percent growing five times faster than those of the bottom 90 percent.

* * *

The U.S. economy is rigged against the American people. Time after time, President Trump and the Republicans have rewarded big corporations and their wealthy donors, and left working families behind. Democrats will take decisive action to level the playing field for people of color, working families, women, small business owners, and others who have been left on the sidelines.

You are correct, they did attempt but the message did not get through, unfortunately.

 

[superrific]

Fareed Zakaria is the epitome of a Very Serious Person. I liked him back in the day, but liked him less and less the more it became apparent that he has no principles and is basically a human form of an Economist article. I rarely see anything to make me doubt that characterization.

This particular screed is embarrassing because, as people noted, the asylum system was not actually set up to be used in a small number of cases. It was set up as part of an international agreement post WWII and it was designed to be used often and to the scope that world events require. And the reason that it is backlogged is GOP underfunding.

 

[LeoBloom]

For decades and decades one of the Republican party's best strategies for reaching voters and for ensuring their base go to the polls have been identity politics. Their emotional appeal is continually wrapped in identity politics.

This notion that the Democrats are the one's who play identity politics is absurd, yet it is another example of how the right has shaped the narrative.

 

[LeoBloom]

Fareed Zakaria is the epitome of a Very Serious Person. I liked him back in the day, but liked him less and less the more it became apparent that he has no principles and is basically a human form of an Economist article. I rarely see anything to make me doubt that characterization.

This particular screed is embarrassing because, as people noted, the asylum system was not actually set up to be used in a small number of cases. It was set up as part of an international agreement post WWII and it was designed to be used often and to the scope that world events require. And the reason that it is backlogged is GOP underfunding.

"...a human form of an Economist article." That's a great line and description.