Have you ever known a murderer?

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A guy I went to high school with killed his wife. I wasn't friends with him but knew him when we were in school. It was a big news item back when it happened. For some reason he set the house on fire, too. I guess to try to make it look like someone else took her. They found her remains a couple of months after she went missing in a fox pen in Granville County. He pleaded guilty to avoid the death penalty. I think he got out of prison last year.

When I was in high school one of my classmates and his friend dropped a large rock off an overpass and it went through a car windshield and killed the driver. They let him out on bail, and I remember it was a big controversy at school because he was white and the woman he killed was black. A lot of the black students felt if he were black and the person killed was white that he wouldn't have been out of jail. I thought it was weird that he was back in school regardless instead of a juvenile prison. He ended up getting electrocuted and killed before the trial while working for a roofing company in the summer. I knew the guy since elementary school but wasn't ever friends with him. Crazy thing is one time on the playground in elementary school he threw a rock and hit me in the head.
 
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Known several-but not before they were murders Went to yokefellows at Orange county prison for a couple decades.........
 
Are we counting people who did the crime but were never convicted or are we only counting those with a legal conviction?

If the former, I've known a few. If the latter, then only one.

I feel like I somehow tell this story every five or so years on the ZZL. I guess this will carry on the tradition.

When I was in 5th grade, none of my close friends ended up in class with me. And this being early enough in school that you didn't change classes or even rotate very much, that meant I didn't see many of my close friends during most of the school day. So I made new friends from the folks in my class. I made 3 pretty good friends in that class that year and we spent the year hanging out at recess and eating lunch together. We only occasionally hung out together after school, but during school hours for most of the school year, these were the 3 guys I hung out with the most. We, being silly 5th graders, called ourselves "The Four Horsemen" and acted like idiots most of the time, although we were relatively harmless. When 6th grade started, I ended up in a class with more of my other friends and the other 3 horsemen weren't in my class, so we didn't see each other very much and I fairly quickly lost much contact with them, although they were in class together and remained friends. The 3 of them went to a different middle school than I did starting in 7th grade and so I rarely saw them after that, although I would occasionally run into them and hear stories.

By our mid-20s, I was the only one of the group that wasn't in jail the majority of the time. One of the guys was in-and-out of jail for drug possession and selling over a number of convictions. He's still a screw up, but last I heard he hasn't been in jail for 10 years or so. Another was in for being part of a robbery/reselling ring and some related assaults. He eventually got out in our late-30s and he turned his life around while in prison. He's not hugely successful or anything, but he holds down a job and isn't doing anything illegal anymore. The last guy was convicted of murder for killing a guy he was beefing with over a girl and some other stupid stuff. He's still in now, although I think he's getting close to his minimum sentence. I don't know much more about him except that I don't really know anyone still in contact with him.

It's really weird to think about those guys from when we were kids and realize how very differently things could have gone for me had I stayed friends with those guys after 5th grade.
 
I knew the first four BTK victims. Don't think I ever met a murderer. There was that odd Ted Bundy kid. I assume he got himself together. Not sure. I lost track of him.
 
My scoutmaster killed his wife in self defense. Some may remember the trial, it was a big deal around Winston and got fairly salacious at times:


Haven’t spoken to him in a long time, but was highly regarded by all the kids and adults. We got our automotive merit badge by helping work on his vintage corvettes. Knew both his son and daughter well, but never met the wife.

He subsequently sued the state, alleging fabrication of evidence, and reached a settlement:

 
If the OP will allow some leeway on storytime beyond just murderers...

In 5th grade I played rec basketball and was selected for the town "all star" team. The team would travel up to a few hours away for weekend tournaments with other all star teams. On one of these trips we pulled into our highway-side motel and the coaches checked us in. The head coach came out to the parking lot and started handing out room keys. He got to the end but was one room key short and me and my best friend who was also on the team weren't given a room. He told me and my friend that we would just bunk in his room. We went to get dinner as a team and when we were coming back to the motel for bedtime I pulled my friend aside and told him I didn't feel comfortable staying in coach's room. We were so young but I never had a problem talking back to adults (which often got me in trouble in class). Coach told us to come into his room but we just grabbed our bags and I said we were going to crash in some other players' room. We slept on the floor in our friends' room and that was the end of it.

Fast forward about 10 years later. That head coach is now coaching little league baseball in a neighboring town and gets busted for sexually assaulting minors on the team.

We 100% dodged getting raped in that motel.
 
Friend I went to school with got arrested in high school for stabbing a dude 100+ times and killing him. Turns out the dude had been molesting my friend for years. He was convicted of the killing although it was for manslaughter and not murder.
 
I worked with this guy for about a month or so, shortly before he did this. Kathy Taft's killer guilty of first-degree murder


I worked with the murderer and the victim in this article. Murderer threatened me with a hammer. James and I worked together for a couple of months. I asked him “if I needed to worry about JB waiting in the parking lot with a crowbar to kill me”. He said no he wasn’t like that. That is pretty much how JB killed James. These guys were roommates and we (fellow employees) warned the victim the day of his death that he needed to watch out that JB was dangerous.

And I worked with these guys as well. Seven Charged with Terrorism Violations in North Carolina



Worked at the same company with all of these. I don’t work there anymore lol.
 
HandsonFire said:
I worked with this guy for about a month or so, shortly before he did this. Kathy Taft's killer guilty of first-degree murder


I worked with the murderer and the victim in this article. Murderer threatened me with a hammer. James and I worked together for a couple of months. I asked him “if I needed to worry about JB waiting in the parking lot with a crowbar to kill me”. He said no he wasn’t like that. That is pretty much how JB killed James. These guys were roommates and we (fellow employees) warned the victim the day of his death that he needed to watch out that JB was dangerous.

And I worked with these guys as well. Seven Charged with Terrorism Violations in North Carolina



Worked at the same company with all of these. I don’t work there anymore lol.
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sounds like they weren't that thorough with background checks.
 
My dad was friends with Dwight Moore, one of the men Blanche Taylor Moore poisoned (though he survived). As a kid I went to picnics at their church where she served meals.

When NBC made a TV movie about it, my parents and some of their friends got an advanced viewing.
 
Former student of mine.
I used to teach Culinary Arts in high school. I taught my students how to select a proper French knife, and how to keep it razor sharp. Taught knife safety, and of course, knife skills… the different cuts that chef’s have to master, including how to butcher, the different cuts of meat and how to fabricate, meat, poultry, fillet fish. Etc.

I helped one get into a local culinary school at a community college. I invited him back to my H.S. Class to demonstrate some things. He did a good job and it went well.

About 2 months later I get a call from a lawyer asking me if I would be a character witness for this guy.
Seems as if he murdered his father. He took his chef’s knife and his filet knife and butchered his fathers corpse after stabbing him to death. He “fabricated” the body into the different cuts of meat.

This former student had listed me as a mentor and a reference as a character witness. I met with the lawyer and a social worker for an interview, but they never called me to testify. He had pled guilty. My testimony would have only been needed to keep him off death row. He’s still in prision serving life, as far as I know. Turns out his father was abusive to him and his mother. He abused the mother one too many times.

One things for certain: the murder weapon was probably razor sharp and the butchering was, I’m sure, top notch. I taught my students well.
 
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Former student of mine.
I used to teach Culinary Arts in high school. I taught my students how to select a proper French knife, and how to keep it razor sharp. Taught knife safety, and of course, knife skills… the different cuts that chef’s have to master, including how to butcher, the different cuts of meat and how to fabricate, meat, poultry, fillet fish. Etc.

I helped one get into a local culinary school at a community college. I invited him back to my H.S. Class to demonstrate some things. He did a good job and it went well.

About 2 months later I get a call from a lawyer asking me if I would be a character witness for this guy.
Seems as if he murdered his father. He took his chef’s knife and his filet knife and butchered his fathers corpse after stabbing him to death. He “fabricated” the body into the different cuts of meat.

This former student had listed me as a mentor and a reference as a character witness. I met with the lawyer and a social worker for an interview, but they never called me to testify. He had pled guilty. My testimony would have only been needed to keep him off death row. He’s still in prision serving life, as far as I know. Turns out his father was abusive to him and his mother. He abused the mother one too many times.

One things for certain: the murder weapon was probably razor sharp and the butchering was, I’m sure, top notch. I taught my students well.
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Accomplice?

Hey Kidding
 
Wolfslayer said:
I taught at CE Jordan HS when Laurence Lovette killed Eve Carson. Saw him in the hallway a few hours after they killed her.
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I met Eve Carson at some do-good event at church that Eve came to with the Chancellor..She was like a movie star that also had very high character Stunning person
 
Known? Not that I know of. Met and spoken with or assisted in their representation? Many (in a very short period of time doing a summer internship at Manhattan Psych).
 
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