Helene & Milton - Political fallout, Disinformation and Lies & now Threats

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I got in an argument with a MAGA chode on the Tar Pit (yeah yeah I know) posting misinformation about Helene and in an effort to provide a right wing voice I pointed out that if he didn't believe me about the hurricane response then just ask Thom Tillis. The response I got - Tillis is a RINO. I mean how deep into the MAGA stench can you get?
 
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I got in an argument with a MAGA chode on the Tar Pit (yeah yeah I know) posting misinformation about Helene and in an effort to provide a right wing voice I pointed out that if he didn't believe me about the hurricane response then just ask Thom Tillis. The response I got - Tillis is a RINO. I mean how deep into the MAGA stench can you get?
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If you are a Republican and you aren't 100% Ultra Dark MAGA then you are a RINO.
 
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If you are a Republican and you aren't 100% Ultra Dark MAGA then you are a RINO.
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The irony is that MAGAs are the true RINOs. They use the name "Republican" but espouse very few Republican ideas -- other than lower taxes and regulation and conservative judges. The vast majority of the MAGA policies do not line up with Republicans. So, they should simply drop out of the Republican party, form the MAGA party, and let Republicans get their name back.
 
Trump has no compassion for the folks in western NC....and yet folks who live in NC ,like HY, will gladly vote for him.

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'Rumors and lies': CNN's Dana Bash unleashes attack on Trump's latest conspiracy theory

CNN host Dana Bash claimed former President Donald Trump was "hurting" his own MAGA voters by spreading conspiracy theories about FEMA support in western North Carolina in the aftermath of flooding caused by Hurricane Helene."The Biden administration is blasting Donald Trump's barrage of lies in...
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A slight deviation from the lies and disinformation tidal wave that have been the focus of this thread, but ahead of Milton I wanted to note that Tampa has already seen a major housing boom suddenly go bust …


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In the Tampa Bay metropolitan area, which includes St. Petersburg, a real-estate boom nearly doubled median home values from 2018 to June of this year, according to Redfin data. Young people flocked to the region, looking for a coastal lifestyle at a relatively affordable price.

The Tampa Bay metro area was the fifth most popular relocation destination in the country, according to an analysis by Redfin last year. The population has soared to more than three million.

… Ballooning home insurance costs and the perennial threat of violent storms are starting to undermine housing markets throughout much of the state. But in few places has the turnaround been more dramatic than in low-lying communities up and down the coast of Florida that frequently flood.

The Tampa Bay housing market had been softening even before Helene struck. While prices have been flat, the area experienced a 58% increase in supply in August compared with a year ago, and a 10% decrease in demand, according to Parcl Labs, a real-estate data and analytics firm.

About half the homes listed for sale in Tampa experienced price reductions as of Sept. 9, the third highest share of all U.S. major metropolitan areas.

… The area’s affordability, once a large part of its appeal, is also waning as insurance premiums soar. Jacob McFadden was paying $880 a year to insure his home when he bought it in 2020. That amount has since almost quadrupled, to $3,300. …”
 


“… The latest edition of Florida Atlantic University’s “Florida Climate Resilience Survey,” found that 90% of Floridians believe that climate change is happening. In comparison, a recent Yale University survey showed 72% of all Americans believe climate change is happening.

… Among the 58% of Floridians who believe human activity is the cause of climate change, the survey found changing attitudes based on party affiliations.

Among Floridians who report no party affiliation, belief that climate change is caused by human activity increased by 11% since the last survey in September 2023 (to 64% in the latest survey). But belief in human-caused climate change among Florida Republicans declined during that time, dropping to 40% from 45%.

The survey also found noteworthy differences in opinion based on the age of the respondents. Respondents under age 50 were more likely to believe that human activity is the cause of climate change than those 50 and older (66% to 50%) and more likely to want state government to do more to address its impacts (77% to 59%). …

The survey also found falling support for solar power as the primary form of energy production that Florida should be supporting for the future: 51% of all respondents support that statement, a decrease of 4% since last fall.

This decline has been happening since solar energy reached peak support of 62% in September 2022, but the recent drop was most pronounced among Florida Republicans. While support for solar remained consistent among Florida Democrats and independents since the last survey, such support fell 9% among Republican respondents.

Overall, most respondents said that climate change sparked their concern for the well-being of future generations (68%).

But less than half of all respondents (48%) said they would be willing to pay $10 a month to strengthen Florida’s infrastructure to weather hazards. …”
 
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“… The latest edition of Florida Atlantic University’s “Florida Climate Resilience Survey,” found that 90% of Floridians believe that climate change is happening. In comparison, a recent Yale University survey showed 72% of all Americans believe climate change is happening.

… Among the 58% of Floridians who believe human activity is the cause of climate change, the survey found changing attitudes based on party affiliations.

Among Floridians who report no party affiliation, belief that climate change is caused by human activity increased by 11% since the last survey in September 2023 (to 64% in the latest survey). But belief in human-caused climate change among Florida Republicans declined during that time, dropping to 40% from 45%.

The survey also found noteworthy differences in opinion based on the age of the respondents. Respondents under age 50 were more likely to believe that human activity is the cause of climate change than those 50 and older (66% to 50%) and more likely to want state government to do more to address its impacts (77% to 59%). …

The survey also found falling support for solar power as the primary form of energy production that Florida should be supporting for the future: 51% of all respondents support that statement, a decrease of 4% since last fall.

This decline has been happening since solar energy reached peak support of 62% in September 2022, but the recent drop was most pronounced among Florida Republicans. While support for solar remained consistent among Florida Democrats and independents since the last survey, such support fell 9% among Republican respondents.

Overall, most respondents said that climate change sparked their concern for the well-being of future generations (68%).

But less than half of all respondents (48%) said they would be willing to pay $10 a month to strengthen Florida’s infrastructure to weather hazards. …”
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Ladies and gentlemen, the conservative mindset. Not willing to pay a paltry amount to make things better for everyone as a preventative measure, but when their own house floods, you better believe they will be screaming bloody murder claiming that they must be made whole down to the cent. Just like they don't want to invest in preventive measures in health care, or invest long-term in education. Conservatives would rather face disaster then risk the thought that they paid for something they ended up not using/needing personally.
 
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Ladies and gentlemen, the conservative mindset. Not willing to pay a paltry amount to make things better for everyone as a preventative measure, but when their own house floods, you better believe they will be screaming bloody murder claiming that they must be made whole down to the cent. Just like they don't want to invest in preventive measures in health care, or invest long-term in education. Conservatives would rather face disaster then risk the thought that they paid for something they ended up not using/needing personally.
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And we've seen this play out in Western NC over the past week. Tons of conservatives on social media are outraged that FEMA isn't offering enough aid. Due to GQP disinformation, most believe the $750 for immediate needs is the full extent of funds available and, if you point out that there's additional aid that can be applied for, they say they "did their research" and it's still not enough. And without a hint of irony, these same conservatives will march to the polls in a few weeks and pull the lever for small government (but not really) politicians who consistently vote to reduce funding for FEMA and similar agencies. Ignorance and selfishness are core tenets of modern conservatism.
 
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🤔 maybe she thinks Trump is hurting himself with outright lies about the relief efforts and is trying to nudge him off that track?
 
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