Helene & Milton - Political fallout, Disinformation and Lies & now Threats
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1moretimeagain
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Maaaan, this country is such a mess. A man in the sauna tonight was on a loud rant about how people in WNC can’t get money from FEMA because it was all given to immigrants. Mind you, I wasn’t even in the sauna, I was just walking by and was able to take this in.
It’s amazing that someone can have such energy and conviction about something and be dead wrong, despite the factual information being so easy to access. A week ago, ok, I can see how you fell for lies being peddled to you, but at this point you should have figured it out.
It’s amazing that someone can have such energy and conviction about something and be dead wrong, despite the factual information being so easy to access. A week ago, ok, I can see how you fell for lies being peddled to you, but at this point you should have figured it out.
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Another depressing angle is that of course some aspects of the response will go wrong, but because the firehouse of lies from MAGA has caused actual pushback from an unusually wide spectrum, the pushback will be turned into the next conspiracy.
See! See!!! We told you it was the worst response in history and everyone in the media said we were lying!! Therefore everything we claimed is true. Never trust the media!!! ENEMY OF THE PEOPLE! DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH! BE A CITIZEN JOURNALIST!!!!
See! See!!! We told you it was the worst response in history and everyone in the media said we were lying!! Therefore everything we claimed is true. Never trust the media!!! ENEMY OF THE PEOPLE! DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH! BE A CITIZEN JOURNALIST!!!!
CallMeTyler
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Man says father-in-law refusing 'all FEMA help' because of Trump
A Republican House member from North Carolina took to social media this week to help debunk the misinformation spread by members of his own party about Hurricane Helene. Meanwhile, a man tells Dan Abrams his father-in-law is refusing FEMA help because of Trump's recent rhetoric. The Morning Joe...
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“The fit, helpful strangers who descended on Horseshoe Beach, Fla., after Hurricane Helene were a welcome sight. The men swiftly chopped through downed trees and cleared mounds of debris for distressed residents in the small gulf-coast town west of Gainesville.
These weren’t typical disaster-relief volunteers. They were members of Patriot Front, an organization branded by the Anti-Defamation League as a white-supremacist group.
Neo-Nazi groups aggressively escalating their activity in recent months across the U.S. have seized upon a potent new recruiting tool: the surging tide of misinformation surrounding hurricanes.
… Exploiting public confusion, grief and communication breakdowns, white supremacist groups are now showing up in vulnerable storm-ravaged communities in Florida and North Carolina. They blend in among the many legitimate church or other charity workers that have rushed in to help.
But these militia groups offer aid while filming propaganda videos that both amplify falsehoods about the government response and help the groups remake their image as patriotic civic organizations for men. …”
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“… One video from Western North Carolina after Hurricane Helene notes, “We in Patriot Front are here to help out the local communities…Our politicians can hem and haw and switch over quickly to their talking points about Israel, but we truly are supporting our communities and being America first.”
The video was shared by an X user who wrote, “While FEMA is nowhere to be found, Patriot Front is boots on the ground,” receiving dozens of likes or retweets.
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While at the residence, a Patriot Front member says in the video that the Appalachian people have been “stomped upon by the federal government and they are again in this instance.” The member gave the resident a flier before leaving, saying, “We’re from Patriot Front. It is a fraternal organization.”
A Proud Boys member last week posted that “FEMA is completely inept…they want us dead and replaced with ‘migrants.’” Proud Boys didn’t respond to requests for comment. Blood Tribe said they plan to continue to protest in Springfield but had no further comment. …”
“… One video from Western North Carolina after Hurricane Helene notes, “We in Patriot Front are here to help out the local communities…Our politicians can hem and haw and switch over quickly to their talking points about Israel, but we truly are supporting our communities and being America first.”
The video was shared by an X user who wrote, “While FEMA is nowhere to be found, Patriot Front is boots on the ground,” receiving dozens of likes or retweets.
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While at the residence, a Patriot Front member says in the video that the Appalachian people have been “stomped upon by the federal government and they are again in this instance.” The member gave the resident a flier before leaving, saying, “We’re from Patriot Front. It is a fraternal organization.”
A Proud Boys member last week posted that “FEMA is completely inept…they want us dead and replaced with ‘migrants.’” Proud Boys didn’t respond to requests for comment. Blood Tribe said they plan to continue to protest in Springfield but had no further comment. …”
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“… Patriot Front’s longtime slogan, Reclaim America, has been used by the Trump campaign—notably for the “Team Trump’s Reclaim America Tour” featuring Robert F. Kennedy Jr.and former U.S. Rep. Tulsi Gabbard.
Patriot Front recently highlighted the similarity on social media and said it is unclear if the Trump campaign is aware of the connection.
The Trump campaign said there was no link between its use of the slogan and Patriot Front’s and bristled at a reporter’s question about the phrase. “It is disgusting that you are trying to associate President Trump’s campaign, backed by tens of millions of Americans, with white supremacist groups. Shame on you,” said Karoline Leavitt, national press secretary. …”
“… Patriot Front’s longtime slogan, Reclaim America, has been used by the Trump campaign—notably for the “Team Trump’s Reclaim America Tour” featuring Robert F. Kennedy Jr.and former U.S. Rep. Tulsi Gabbard.
Patriot Front recently highlighted the similarity on social media and said it is unclear if the Trump campaign is aware of the connection.
The Trump campaign said there was no link between its use of the slogan and Patriot Front’s and bristled at a reporter’s question about the phrase. “It is disgusting that you are trying to associate President Trump’s campaign, backed by tens of millions of Americans, with white supremacist groups. Shame on you,” said Karoline Leavitt, national press secretary. …”
heelinhell
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and Trump is the guy who our NC board GQPers can't wait to cast their vote to be our next president 
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'Flat out lie': N.C. governor slaps back as Trump levels new accusations against him
North Carolina Gov. Roy Cooper (D) slapped back at Donald Trump after the former president accused him without evidence of blocking hurricane relief aid in his state. Cooper took to X Friday afternoon to publicly respond to the former president's claim that he had colluded with the White House...
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Scientific Mapp
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The disinformation about FEMA supposedly intercepting and confiscating physical donations has an amazing amount of traction in WNC. Including among regular people who aren't usually conspiracy types.
Giant trucks full of bottle water and diaper donations are stopping and off-loading ~30 miles east of where those things are actually still needed. Then, the stuff is being loaded piecemeal into individual vehicles before being driven up the mountain separately. It's like people who want to be charitable are also living out some sort of bootlegging fantasy. Just drive the dang diaper truck up the mountain to Swannanoa if you want to do some good.
Giant trucks full of bottle water and diaper donations are stopping and off-loading ~30 miles east of where those things are actually still needed. Then, the stuff is being loaded piecemeal into individual vehicles before being driven up the mountain separately. It's like people who want to be charitable are also living out some sort of bootlegging fantasy. Just drive the dang diaper truck up the mountain to Swannanoa if you want to do some good.
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Trump’s posts:and Trump is the guy who our NC board GQPers can't wait to cast their vote to be our next president
'Flat out lie': N.C. governor slaps back as Trump levels new accusations against him
North Carolina Gov. Roy Cooper (D) slapped back at Donald Trump after the former president accused him without evidence of blocking hurricane relief aid in his state. Cooper took to X Friday afternoon to publicly respond to the former president's claim that he had colluded with the White House...
Isn't this essentially buying votes? Pie in the sky promises is one thing but a direct program like this? Where is the line? Where is the Republicans' gag reflex? Did it end up in the trash along with their principles?Trump’s posts:
I wish he invested based on his sources. He wouldn't be able to afford the power to post.
lawtig02
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He’s been straight up buying votes for months now. He won’t be able to get any of it done, but that doesn’t diminish the absurd irresponsibility of it.
Mulberry Heel
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This whole lithium mine thing is such a total joke. NC's lithium belt isn't even in the mountains, it runs through the Piedmont close to Charlotte. Kind of hard to build lithium mines where there is little to no lithium.
lawtig02
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The morons don’t know the difference between lithium and the silicon they mine up near Spruce Pine. They think lithium and silicon are the same thing.
lightbluenc
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Nor do they care if they have to lie about any of it. The lie is just a means to an end, like everything with trump. If they have to lie to get their way then that's what it takes.
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Actually, I'm past the point where I think it's tragic. I think it's perfectly fine.Man says father-in-law refusing 'all FEMA help' because of Trump
A Republican House member from North Carolina took to social media this week to help debunk the misinformation spread by members of his own party about Hurricane Helene. Meanwhile, a man tells Dan Abrams his father-in-law is refusing FEMA help because of Trump's recent rhetoric. The Morning Joe...
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If you want to listen to a con man against all information & arguments and refuse the help that's offered to you, then either pull yourself up by your bootstraps or suffer in your ignorance. It makes no difference to me.