I said basically this same sentiment on the old ZZLP, much to the dismay of a few of the posters on this thread. I can only speak for myself, and my very American-centric thinking, but if I was in a similar situation here, and the lives of my family were at risk, I would say “bye bye America!” and leave tomorrow.
It's strange you omit the entirety of the Arab world in your list of groups that "wronged" the Palestinians. It was the Arab League and the UN Palestinian delegation that refused to negotiate with the UN for the partition plan - believing they could just defeat the Jews and kick them all out. This inconvenient fact is why reviewing "past wrongs" is a road to nowhere. Every group involved has their own arguments in favor of their positions. If this were a simple right vs. wrong situation we would have had a solution.
I agree with your last paragraph. Unfortunately that cannot realistically happen with groups like Hamas in charge. What needs to happen is a Marshall Plan type level of investment in Gaza once this war is over, but the IC needs to make sure that money is not stolen by Hamas like it has been in the past.
No - they just invaded Israel in an attempt to over throw the government and kick out all the Jews. They also are complicit in encouraging and ignoring the UN attempts at creating a Palestinian State in 1947 - which - together with the lost invasion and war - was the beginning of the situation we see ourselves in today. So - yeah they should be at the top of your list.
I tend to stay away from this issue because I can’t think of a more complicated problem in international politics and I am only somewhat familiar with the history. That said, this post is pretty close to my feelings on the situation. I definitely feel compassion for the Palestinian people and support an immediate cease fire. I think the Palestinians need to purge Hamas from power. If I saw some kind of reasonably similar fervor in removing Hamas from the protesters and Palestinians as I do against Israel that would be a start. I know they generally don’t support Hamas, but they need to go farther than that. Netanyahu needs to go along with his right wing compatriots. I think the Palestinian supporters who threaten a sort of mutually assured destruction with Democrats by potentially withholding their votes which could result in Trump’s election are completely misguided. I won’t feel sorry for them if they contribute to a Trump presidency.
UFB. The settlers launch attacks like this because they know the IDF or police are not going to try and protect the Palestinians.A Family Flees and a Mother Mourns After Israeli Settlers Attack a Palestinian Village
Residents of the village in the Israeli-occupied West Bank say one Palestinian man was killed by rampaging settlers. Israel’s military confirmed the village was attacked.www.nytimes.com
They came into the village just past sundown, dozens of Israeli settlers wearing masks, dressed in dark clothes and armed with rocks, Kalashnikovs and M-16s, witnesses said.
A local resident, Muawiya al-Sidee, said his 13-year-old daughter was one of the first to spot them as she and her younger siblings were playing on Thursday in their front garden in the village of Jit, in the Israeli-occupied West Bank.
“‘Baba, settlers are coming!’” the girl screamed.
Mr. al-Sidee and his wife, who was breastfeeding their 2-year-old daughter at the time, piled their five children into their car and drove off just as the settlers reached their front door.
Seconds later, he said, the Israelis from the nearby Eli settlement smashed the windows of his family’s home and threw in three Molotov cocktails, burning rooms where, moments earlier, the family had gathered.
As the family fled, a call went out over mosque loudspeakers in the village of some 3,000 people, imploring young men to come out and defend against the rampaging settlers.
When Mr. al-Sidee returned hours later, after the settlers had withdrawn, he found the sofas in his house were charred husks and the overhead lamps had melted.
Elsewhere in the village, Rasheed al-Seda, 23, awoke when the call for defenders sounded from the mosques. He joined a group determined to defend the village, armed with nothing but stones.
It would cost him his life, his mother and the Palestinian Ministry of Health said.
The Israeli military confirmed the attack on the village.
The story of the young man of 23 defending his village with stones reminds me of a famous picture.A Family Flees and a Mother Mourns After Israeli Settlers Attack a Palestinian Village
Residents of the village in the Israeli-occupied West Bank say one Palestinian man was killed by rampaging settlers. Israel’s military confirmed the village was attacked.
They came into the village just past sundown, dozens of Israeli settlers wearing masks, dressed in dark clothes and armed with rocks, Kalashnikovs and M-16s, witnesses said.
A local resident, Muawiya al-Sidee, said his 13-year-old daughter was one of the first to spot them as she and her younger siblings were playing on Thursday in their front garden in the village of Jit, in the Israeli-occupied West Bank.
“‘Baba, settlers are coming!’” the girl screamed.
Mr. al-Sidee and his wife, who was breastfeeding their 2-year-old daughter at the time, piled their five children into their car and drove off just as the settlers reached their front door.
Seconds later, he said, the Israelis from the nearby Eli settlement smashed the windows of his family’s home and threw in three Molotov cocktails, burning rooms where, moments earlier, the family had gathered.
As the family fled, a call went out over mosque loudspeakers in the village of some 3,000 people, imploring young men to come out and defend against the rampaging settlers.
When Mr. al-Sidee returned hours later, after the settlers had withdrawn, he found the sofas in his house were charred husks and the overhead lamps had melted.
Elsewhere in the village, Rasheed al-Seda, 23, awoke when the call for defenders sounded from the mosques. He joined a group determined to defend the village, armed with nothing but stones.
It would cost him his life, his mother and the Palestinian Ministry of Health said.
The Israeli military confirmed the attack on the village.
Didn’t the IDF arrest someone in connection with this murder? How many people has Hamas arrested due to their actions on 10/7? I do agree that the IDF should have been there to prevent this atrocity, however in wartime perhaps they were spread thin.A Family Flees and a Mother Mourns After Israeli Settlers Attack a Palestinian Village
Residents of the village in the Israeli-occupied West Bank say one Palestinian man was killed by rampaging settlers. Israel’s military confirmed the village was attacked.
They came into the village just past sundown, dozens of Israeli settlers wearing masks, dressed in dark clothes and armed with rocks, Kalashnikovs and M-16s, witnesses said.
A local resident, Muawiya al-Sidee, said his 13-year-old daughter was one of the first to spot them as she and her younger siblings were playing on Thursday in their front garden in the village of Jit, in the Israeli-occupied West Bank.
“‘Baba, settlers are coming!’” the girl screamed.
Mr. al-Sidee and his wife, who was breastfeeding their 2-year-old daughter at the time, piled their five children into their car and drove off just as the settlers reached their front door.
Seconds later, he said, the Israelis from the nearby Eli settlement smashed the windows of his family’s home and threw in three Molotov cocktails, burning rooms where, moments earlier, the family had gathered.
As the family fled, a call went out over mosque loudspeakers in the village of some 3,000 people, imploring young men to come out and defend against the rampaging settlers.
When Mr. al-Sidee returned hours later, after the settlers had withdrawn, he found the sofas in his house were charred husks and the overhead lamps had melted.
Elsewhere in the village, Rasheed al-Seda, 23, awoke when the call for defenders sounded from the mosques. He joined a group determined to defend the village, armed with nothing but stones.
It would cost him his life, his mother and the Palestinian Ministry of Health said.
The Israeli military confirmed the attack on the village.
