I’m basing my reasoning on actual footage of the aftermath. I’m not going to post it here because it’s very graphic. The amount of children dismembered and brunt to death is sickening. Even if Hamas was supposedly there, this is not justified. Would Hamas be justified in the killings of the festival people if they claimed that Israeli soldiers were there? No? I didn’t think so.
The difference is that Israel actually values the lives of its citizens, while Hamas views Palestinian civilians as nothing more than cannon fodder for its PR campaign. How can you safely and effectively wage war against an enemy that openly admits to trying to get as many innocent civilians on its side killed as possible? I feel for the innocent Palestinians, because they are caught in a situation in which their own government wants them dead and the Israeli government doesn't care enough to keep them alive.
That’s also more Israeli propaganda. You say Israel values its civilians but why did they initiate the Hannibal directive on Oct 7th? Why did they kill their own hostages that were waving white flags and speaking in Hebrew? They really valued them there.
They say this every single time and you slurp it up. A massacre is a massacre, and Israel needs to slow the fuck down.Israel reports the school was being used by Hamas:
"Lt. Col. Nadav Shoshani, an Israeli military spokesman, said based on intelligence assessments, that approximately 20 militants from the Hamas and Islamic Jihad armed groups, including senior commanders, were operating from the school and using it to carry out attacks.
“The compound, and the mosque that was struck within it, served as an active Hamas and Islamic Jihad military facility,” said Colonel Shoshani, without providing details.
He said information released by Gaza authorities in the past has “proven to be sorely unreliable.”
Middle East Crisis: Israel Strikes School Complex Turned Shelter in Gaza, Killing Dozens, Local Health Officials Say
Israel said Hamas was using the school compound for military operations and cast doubt on the casualty tolls from Gaza, where health officials said dozens were killed.www.nytimes.com
They killed their own hostages because they were idiots, not because they wanted to kill them. Friendly fire has been an unfortunate reality of every war.
And how does it end? Israel didn’t have any goals except total destruction.
The Israelis claim they have to destroy Hamas. If that requires eradication of Palestinians in Gaza it appears they are fine with that. And you will be cheerleading the slaughter the whole way.
In my mind the best case scenario is Sinwar dead, Hamas out of power and an international peacekeeping force in Gaza. Rebuild it like we rebuilt Germany and Japan after 1945. Worst case scenario is a stalemate that lasts a couple of years until Hamas attacks again, Israel responds and we're back in the same boat in 2028.
Germany and Japan had some degree of self-determination and a path to self rule. Gaza has none of that.
Just because they don't have it now doesn't mean that it will impossible for them to get there. Hamas is the roadblock, just as the Nazis were in 1945. Get rid of them and you'll find that most people just want to be able to live their lives and will welcome foreign assistance in making that happen.
Not the wholesale destruction of every structure and all the infrastructure in Gaza. By eliminating any vision of a future recovery they have radicalized the next generation of Palestinians completely. I expect they will use that fact to justify killing all the children.
Ok, but I asked what you would have done, not what you wouldn't have done.
What would you do if you were a Palestinian all the other dates before and after? This shit didn’t start Oct 7th. It didn’t happen in a bubble.
I certainly wouldn't have ran across the border and raped and slaughtered anyone I could find.
And we fucked that up completely.