I literally said the donors are American citizens whose interests are aligned with Israel. I didn't say that Israel was funding them. They do, however, work closely with the largest donors.
I think most of them use religion for their selfish political motives. Most of them are brainwashed and do not understand the religion they represent. Also, each of those groups have their own agendas and are not monolithic.
This may be true for the leaders, but not for the followers. You don't convince people to blow themselves up for political gain. They gain nothing when they are dead.
Those are the brainwashed ones that I referred to. They are usually the ones that have suffered trauma when they were younger or were groomed/brainwashed at an early age.
It's not hard to turn broken people into weapons.
You denied the Americanness of the Americans who donate to AIPAC by saying that it was “Israel” who was doing the meddling. It wasn’t Israel. It was Americans.
Again, I not once took away their Americanness (whatever that means). I said they are closely aligned with Israel and are pushing pro-Israel Agenda. I mean, they literally sign their tweets with "Being pro-Israel is good policy and good politics." Does that take away their Americanness?
You wrote that Israel meddled with our elections
www.worldjewishcongress.org
I mean, they are Americans and they are donating to win elections for candidates that will do what Israel wants. It doesn't matter if the race is democrat or republican, but they will support the one that will pledge their support to Israel. Why is it that politicians are scared to criticize Israel? They know that if they do, they will fight an uphill battle to be reelected. To me, that is more offensive than what you are being offended by. I am offended that these politicians are scared to speak out against a genocide because they will lose their seat. How the hell is it that Trump and Biden (now Harris) will disagree on everything, except for how much they love and support Israel? Why isn't any other ally mentioned in debates?
Please don’t move the goalposts or deflect or both sides. I am not trying to shame you. I am trying to explain it to you.
I am just not understanding what is offensive about what I am saying. I said they are Americans that are closely aligned with Israel. What is wrong or offensive with that statement? How would you describe it without it being offensive?
How about “Violent Quakers” for a band name?
If logistics were the only issue then this conflict would be over. I disagree that the "settlers are just as bad as Hamas" - but regardless - Israel already forcibly removed settlers. What settlements would remain and what would be disbanded is a matter for negotiations. The broader point is far more important - namely that both sides are in a "we can win if we wait it out" mode and thus no one is incentivized to negotiate. People who believe in peace must focus on the two state solution because this is the only real path for peace. Israel will never give up the Jewish State and Palestinians will never give up the goal of a Palestinian State, thus discussing a confederation or a secularised Palestine "from the River to the Sea" is a waste of time and energy and costs more Palestinian and Israeli lives.
