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Israel Hamas War, West Bank, Etc. | Hostilities resume

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nycfan said:
@superrific (and @2ManyBlueCups) — requesting that you step back from personal insults

Also wish there was a way that we could collectively quit demanding that @RaiGuy have to condemn Hamas or others have to condemn deaths of civilians as a predicate to every post.
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My "personal insult" was merely a response to what you are describing in your second sentence. The rebuke was deserved.
 
superrific said:
My "personal insult" was merely a response to what you are describing in your second sentence. The rebuke was deserved.
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It wasn’t. I’ve posted probably a hundred times with RaiGuy in this thread. By my count I asked him about condemning Hamas three times. That doesn’t make me an asshole. It just means that you can’t count.
 
CNN reporting now that IDF claims that someone among the protesters in the West Bank threw rocks at them … so apprently they claim they were justified to fire into the crowd(?)

Other witnesses claim the protest was winding down, then the IDF shot tear gas to disperse the crowd and a few IDF started firing.

The murdered American had just graduated from UW this past Spring.
 
2ManyBlueCups said:
Israeli settlers attacked Palestinians. Palestinian terror groups in the West Bank attacked Israeli civilians. The IDF responded against Palestinian terror groups. However, you attempted to frame the issue as the IDF simply bombing the West Bank for no reason. That's not even close to being the case.

Smotrich is an idiot but he is not the same as Sinwar. He is a fringe politician and has been condemned by many Israelis. His positions do not represent the positions of the Israeli government. Hamas, however, as a policy has stated that they want to kill every last Jew and as many Palestinian civilians as possible, and they have acted numerous times on these desires.
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Completely disingenuous. Smotrich is the Minister of Finance with the settlements portfolio. He wields considerable power.
 
2ManyBlueCups said:
Wow. What a misstep. The right can have a field day with this, juxtapositioning Waltz's words with protesters calling for Jihad and for the Jews to be murdered.
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Meh, they pretty much do that anyway.

Walz and Harris don’t care about what the right will do or say. They’re targeting a different demographic—lefties who were pissed off at Joe for not being more outspoken against Israel and in favor of protestors. Polling indicates that those lefties and Muslims/palestinian Americans are still on the fence about Harris/Walz and may stay home on Election Day.
 
EyeballKid said:
Meh, they pretty much do that anyway.

Walz and Harris don’t care about what the right will do or say. They’re targeting a different demographic—lefties who were pissed off at Joe for not being more outspoken against Israel and in favor of protestors. Polling indicates that those lefties and Muslims/palestinian Americans are still on the fence about Harris/Walz and may stay home on Election Day.
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Yet they risk losing the Jewish vote. That's why you don't go too extreme to either side. Full-heartedly endorsing the protests, many of which have contained anti-semitic and pro-terroristic language, is a huge jump to the left.
 
TarSpiel said:
Speaking out for the downdrotten and powerless is never a "misstep"

The right can do whatever they want with it. Trump voters drank the kool aid a long time ago anyway.
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It is a misstep when you also endorse people calling for terrorist violence against a religious group. That's why most smart politicians avoid "all" statements. If Trump wins in November, this could be a huge part of the reason why. Before the election ride the fence. Don't piss off the Jewish lobby. Worry about specific actions after you win.
 
Meanwhile, the FBI arrested a man plotting to massacre Jews in New York on the anniversary of 10/7. I'm sure he was doing this for "all the right reasons." Just trying to do what some of the protesters have been calling for all along, right?

 
2ManyBlueCups said:
It is a misstep when you also endorse people calling for terrorist violence against a religious group. That's why most smart politicians avoid "all" statements. If Trump wins in November, this could be a huge part of the reason why. Before the election ride the fence. Don't piss off the Jewish lobby. Worry about specific actions after you win.
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Well, then it’s a good thing he didn’t do that.
 
2ManyBlueCups said:
It is a misstep when you also endorse people calling for terrorist violence against a religious group.
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You know that they weren't endorsing those people or those statements, and so will all the talking heads on Fox who try to make hay out of it. (And so will all the great, humane, heroic Jews who advocate daily for Palestinian rights and dignity).
 
lawtig02 said:
Well, then it’s a good thing he didn’t do that.
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He said they were protesting for "all the right reasons." Some of them are protesting because they support a terroristic genocide against the Jews. A better statement would have been "most of these people are protesting for all of the right reasons." Subtle but significant difference.
 
2ManyBlueCups said:
Yet they risk losing the Jewish vote. That's why you don't go too extreme to either side. Full-heartedly endorsing the protests, many of which have contained anti-semitic and pro-terroristic language, is a huge jump to the left.
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What Walz said was the opposite of extreme. It was about as milquetoast as you can get.

You’re reaching.
 
farce© said:
I think I’m gonna have to go that way. He’s just shitting on too many threads.
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I gave him the benefit of the doubt with his so-called apology posts in the initial days of the site, but it's clear that was made to get people to keep him off ignore so he could go back to full on trolling again. Anyway, super-ignore solved that problem a few days ago.

If he truly wanted a new start he would have kept silent about his identity and just posted properly. Instead it is clear the goal was more attention whore trolling.
 
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