Trump / Musk (other than DOGE)

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finesse said:
What happens when they have more children?
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True. You'd probably have to set a cut-off date (based on a full pregnancy term) where having more children isn't going to protect you from deportation. That will leave it up to the parents. If they have more, the children are welcome to come back when they are 18 or the parents can find godparents to raise them here.
 
superrific said:
The parents need to be removed in exactly the same way that all jaywalkers need to be ticketed and all public drunkenness needs to be prosecuted as a misdemeanor criminal offense where applicable.
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The US needs to be consistent. We have laws and they are enforced, otherwise it only encourages more sneaking in.
 
ZenMode said:
True. You'd probably have to set a cut-off date (based on a full pregnancy term) where having more children isn't going to protect you from deportation. That will leave it up to the parents. If they have more, the children are welcome to come back when they are 18 or the parents can find godparents to raise them here.
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So you're saying that parents won't be able to have sex for fear of getting deported? Sounds like the party of small minded government to me.
 
finesse said:
So you're saying that parents won't be able to have sex for fear of getting deported? Sounds like the party of small minded government to me.
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The parents should be deported either way. They know the risks of having sex.

They also know/knew the risks of illegally crossing the border. Decisions have consequences.
 
What are the odds that there will continue to be a push to bar contraception? Maybe there can be an illegal immigrant exemption. I guess it's Hobson's choice. You can let them breed and be forced out or you can give them the option of not breeding unlike real Americans, in case they find some insidious way of staying.
 
ZenMode said:
The Constitution and knowing that deporting citizens would be the equivalent of self-immolation for the Republican party..
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The Constitution ? Really ? The Constitution didn't prevent Trump from inciting a rebellion to overthrow the government or hold him accountable for his actions. Would SCOTUS say it's ok to attempt to overthrow the government but deporting some brown citizens is just a bridge too far ?
Pleeeze...

And why would deportations of Hispanic children born in America destroy the "republican" party. There is no "republican party" There is only the Trump/MAGA party and they would like nothing better than to mass deport anyone with a brown skin.
 
heelinhell said:
The Constitution ? Really ? The Constitution didn't prevent Trump from inciting a rebellion to overthrow the government or hold him accountable for his actions. Would SCOTUS say it's ok to attempt to overthrow the government but deporting some brown citizens is just a bridge too far ?
Pleeeze...

And why would deportations of Hispanic children born in America destroy the "republican" party. There is no "republican party" There is only the Trump/MAGA party and they would like nothing better than to mass deport anyone with a brown skin.
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It's not happening. Trump is dumb, but even he isn't that dumb.
 
heelinhell said:
Yeah, and if I had told you on 1/5/2021 that Trump will attempt to overthrow government, you would have said that Trump is dumb, but he isn't that dumb:oops:
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Over these many years, dozens and dozens of trumpers have offered their insider knowledge into what Trump will/wont do, what he actually means, how he thinks, his underlying motives, etc.

I thank Jesus everyday for these infallible and implacable Rosetta stones, despite their 0-9837 record.
 
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ZenMode said:
I don't like that. I'd rather make an exception for the parent(s).

I wonder how many situations there are where two parents are here illegally and they brought a child from a foreign country or had a child while in the US.
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I'd imagine a decent percentage of those that are here.

I thought earlier you were saying that trump wasn't planning on removing birth right citizenship from existing, only future children born here.

If I misunderstood your point, sorry.
 
nycfan said:
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So government by bullying, intimidation, and stark threats. And of course nearly all of these Congressional Republicans are going to cave, if they had any backbone they would have stood up to Trump a long time ago. It will be interesting to see just how many - if any - Republicans other than (probably) Murkowski actually oppose him.
 
Trump’s sense of humor seems out of whack (even more than usual) on the Canada as a state thing.

 
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