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Everybody seems to have a gripe about how the media is covering the election, politics and, in particular, Trump. I figured it ought too have its own discussion thread and thought I would start it with a pretty good piece by Aaron Rupar (the entire thing is well reported and worth clicking the link to read):

www.publicnotice.co

Trump's weekend of radical flip-flopping

It's hard to say you're against abortion bans when you're literally voting for them.
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A portion of Rupar’s article is relevant to the topic at hand:

“… Another issue here is the complicity of the media in cleaning up Trump’s fact-free flip-flops.

Imagine Kamala Harris not being able to articulate her position on abortion and reversing herself within 24 hours and having it being reported as merely a clarification or simply mixed signals, as the media did for Trump here.

The elite press is also willing to uncritically report Trump’s Hail Mary moves on reproductive health, such as his recent assertionthat he would make IVF free. (His campaign has no explanation as to how this would be funded.)

Further, no one is pressing him on how he’d require universal coverage for IVF, a thing opposed by many religious conservatives, when his administration previously helmed an effort to allow religious employers to opt out of providing birth control.

There’s no earthly reason to give Trump the benefit of the doubt here. Besides dismantling the Affordable Care Act’s contraceptive mandate, the Trump administration also tried to undermine private insurance coverage for abortions, prohibited clinics from receiving federal funds under Title X if they even referred people elsewhere for abortion services, and slashed grants for teen pregnancy prevention programs.

A second Trump administration will be comprehensively terrible for reproductive rights generally, not just abortion, and no amount of uninformed flip-flopping will change that. …”
 
On a related note, the press are under increasing threat of violence in political coverage …

apnews.com

Police say a man will face charges after storming into the press area at a Trump rally

Police say a man will face misdemeanor charges after he stormed into the press area at Donald Trump’s rally in Johnstown, Pennsylvania, before being surrounded by authorities as the former president spoke at the campaign stop.
apnews.com apnews.com

Police say a man will face charges after storming into the press area at a Trump rally​


“… The incident Friday came moments after Trump had criticized major media outlets for what he said was unfavorable coverage and had dismissed CNN as fawning for its interview Thursday with his Democratic rival Kamala Harris and her running mate, Tim Walz.

It was not immediately clear what motivated the man or whether he was a Trump supporter or critic. …”


Video of incident:



“… The crowd cheered as a pack of police led the man away, prompting Trump to say, “Is there anywhere that’s more fun to be than a Trump rally?” …”
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Even this article bends over backward to not appear to blame Trump supporters when a man who attended a Trump rally tried to breach press security after Trump criticized the media … and I’m not saying that is improper.

But Trump will lie about the incident (if he needs to) and continue to rile his audience agains the “enemy of the state” media regardless of how careful the media are in giving Trump and MAGA the benefit of every doubt. It is part of what makes their jobs so difficult…
 
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This was the only thing worse than 24 hour news that ever happened to news coverage.


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The intrusion by government into the content of programming occasioned by the enforcement of [the fairness doctrine] restricts the journalistic freedom of broadcasters ... [and] actually inhibits the presentation of controversial issues of public importance to the detriment of the public and the degradation of the editorial prerogative of broadcast journalists.
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At the 4–0 vote, Chairman Patrick said:

We seek to extend to the electronic press the same First Amendment guarantees that the print media have enjoyed since our country's inception.<a href="Fairness doctrine - Wikipedia"><span>[</span>37<span>]</span></a>
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We’ve reached the silly season part of the election where Trump can’t decide what his stance on abortion is, Kamala is coming out in support of conservative solutions to the border crisis, and Kamala is even stealing Trump’s “no tax on tips” idea.

A good rule of thumb is, if you hear a politician make a 180 on something that might make them more popular, just assume they’re lying about their true intentions.
 
HeelYeah2012 said:
We’ve reached the silly season part of the election where Trump can’t decide what his stance on abortion is, Kamala is coming out in support of conservative solutions to the border crisis, and Kamala is even stealing Trump’s “no tax on tips” idea.

A good rule of thumb is, if you hear a politician make a 180 on something that might make them more popular, just assume they’re lying about their true intentions.
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Kamala backed the bipartisan border bill. That’s not “doing a 180.” Its what leaders do when looking for honest solutions and compromises to long-standing and worsening issues like a broken and underfunded immigration system.
 
HeelYeah2012 said:
We’ve reached the silly season part of the election where Trump can’t decide what his stance on abortion is, Kamala is coming out in support of conservative solutions to the border crisis, and Kamala is even stealing Trump’s “no tax on tips” idea.

A good rule of thumb is, if you hear a politician make a 180 on something that might make them more popular, just assume they’re lying about their true intentions.
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I just generally assume politicians are lying if they are talking. I tend to look at what they've done in general and vote for those whose general ideas align with mine. They are all going to piss me off in specific but one thing that getting old teaches is that incremental progress is still progress.

We're a damned long way from the segregation I grew up with in ENC in the 50s. We may not be far enough but there's not going to be an Emmet Till beaten to death for looking at a white women. Gays may not have all the rights and respect that they deserve but unlike in 1960, which was the first presidential election I could somewhat understand, a debate on homosexuality would not be whether it was a crime or a mental illness. And we damned sure wouldn't have a woman running for president.
 
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All of the examples in this thread are bad, but this one still stands out. "Yes, Trump as president did release annual budgets that consistently cut Medicare, but Democratic accusations this year that he wants to cut Medicare are still false because he's promised not to cut it in a second term" is beyond a joke and makes a mockery of politifact and their claims to factual accuracy. Apparently there is no end to the efforts the mainstream media will go to promote and protect Dear Leader.
 
nycfan said:
Everybody seems to have a gripe about how the media is covering the election, politics and, in particular, Trump. I figured it ought too have its own discussion thread and thought I would start it with a pretty good piece by Aaron Rupar (the entire thing is well reported and worth clicking the link to read):

www.publicnotice.co

Trump's weekend of radical flip-flopping

It's hard to say you're against abortion bans when you're literally voting for them.
www.publicnotice.co www.publicnotice.co
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From the article:
When questioned further about whether that meant he’d vote in favor of the amendment, Trump said, “I am going to be voting that we need more than six weeks.” As Josh Marshall at Talking Points Memo noted, it may very well be that Trump is so confused about the ballot process that he thought he could somehow just vote to add a few weeks to the existing six-week ban.

The man is absolutely clueless. It's simple he's been told to try and play both sides since this is a pivotal topic, but he's not capable.
 
HeelYeah2012 said:
We’ve reached the silly season part of the election where Trump can’t decide what his stance on abortion is, Kamala is coming out in support of conservative solutions to the border crisis, and Kamala is even stealing Trump’s “no tax on tips” idea.

A good rule of thumb is, if you hear a politician make a 180 on something that might make them more popular, just assume they’re lying about their true intentions.
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Well how does one reconcile trump? Who's flipped so often that no one really knows what he stands for? That an the constant word salad of lies...
 
EyeballKid said:
Kamala backed the bipartisan border bill. That’s not “doing a 180.” Its what leaders do when looking for honest solutions and compromises to long-standing and worsening issues like a broken and underfunded immigration system.
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They know that. It was clearly explained on earlier threads. Maga's don't want to admit this is how things get done.
 
finesse said:
I just generally assume politicians are lying if they are talking. I tend to look at what they've done in general and vote for those whose general ideas align with mine. They are all going to piss me off in specific but one thing that getting old teaches is that incremental progress is still progress.

We're a damned long way from the segregation I grew up with in ENC in the 50s. We may not be far enough but there's not going to be an Emmet Till beaten to death for looking at a white women. Gays may not have all the rights and respect that they deserve but unlike in 1960, which was the first presidential election I could somewhat understand, a debate on homosexuality would not be whether it was a crime or a mental illness. And we damned sure wouldn't have a woman running for president.
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but one thing that getting old teaches is that incremental progress is still progress.
Thats me-and its ALL from the Dems since Reagan
 
Good lord HY throwing out a political rule of thumb. 😆

trump's never been able to decide what his stance is on abortion or much of anything. Your ROT almost always applies to trump though so take it for a spin.

I don't think the trump's "no tax on tips" would ultimately be the same as Kamala's in reality. I think the devil would be in the details and that she isn't actually stealing a thing from him when it comes to how actual implementation.

"As president, she would work with Congress to craft a proposal that comes with an income limit and with strict requirements to prevent hedge fund managers and lawyers from structuring their compensation in ways to try to take advantage of the policy," the official, who isn't authorized by the campaign to speak publicly, said. "Vice President Harris would push for the proposal alongside an increase in the minimum wage."

Is rump going to push it alongside proposal for increased min wage? I also highly suspect trump's version would be rife with fraud, but that is kind of what he does best. Admittedly I haven't taken a deep dive into it, I've just seen enough from trump over the years to know better.
 
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