NC’s Original Senator No

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North Carolina’s original Senator No was Nathaniel Macon of the generation of our nation’s founding. He believed ferociously in states’ rights and minuscule government. He denounced The Constitution, and certainly supported the right to secede from our constitutional democratic republic (though he died long before the Civil War). He was frugal to a pain, voting against a monument to honor his friend George Washington upon his death because he believed that such an expenditure was beyond the purview of the federal government.



His colleagues called him a ‘negative radical’ and his almost automatic response to every act of government was NO. The historian, David Hackett Fischer, author of ‘Albion’s Seed: Four British Folkways in America,‘ wrote of four waves of invaders to these shores; Puritans (To New England), Cavaliers (To Virginia and the Carolina coast), Quakers (To Pennsylvania, New Jersey, and the Delaware Valley), and finally, the Backcountry Borderlanders (To the Carolina Piedmont and Appalachia). While Fischer’s book has not gone without criticism I have always found his Backcountry Borderlanders to bear a goodly likeness to the “To Be Rather Than To Seem” crowd of Tar Heel fame. The old saying, “A Vale of Humility Between Two Mountains of Conceit” also strikes a chord in this pondering. While Macon seems to have been of the financial means usually associated with Virginia’s Cavalier class, most of his sentiments appear to have rested with the less-elitist, more visceral Backcountry Borderlanders.



The Backcountry Borderlanders pushed themselves into the land far removed from the coast and as the wars and depredations of that movement resulted in the death and migration westward of the Native American population they spread throughout the region and farmed. This was #DeepChatham and #DeepAlamance, Randolph, Guilford, Moore, Orange, etc. Thus many that I grew up among, including my own self, are the descendants of the Backcountry Borderlanders. Many of the men that traded at my Deddy’s hardware store in #Bonlee showed the BB’s ‘so independent I’d cut off my nose to spite my face before I’d be told what to do’ attitude pretty consistently. It was a thing that had to be ‘got around’ if you were going to attend to them in retail.



My Grandpa Willis was one of that number. My Deddy somehow learned to be more open, less stubborn - I guess that’s what made him a good merchant. Historically folks in #DeepChatham had lived in a pretty dispersed pattern with homes surrounded by fields, pasture, and woodlands. No one was too closeby. Most homesteads were found down a long dirt road, preferably with a good view so as to see a visitor coming with plenty of time to prepare. The dogs could run out and escort anyone coming up that road sounding the alarm along the way. Grandpa’s beagles always ran beside us as we made our way in.



A family home was ideally essentially a Hermitage (Significantly the name that Andrew Jackson chose for his plantation to which he retired). Nathaniel Macon, remember him, said it best: “…no man ought to live so near another as to hear his neighbor's dog bark." Grandpa lived that way, though he had neighbors with whom he was close friends to be sure. My Deddy asked Grandpa many times if he could spruce up that road, in rainy times you pretty much had to ford a creek, but he always refused. I think he thought that you ought to want to see a man badly enough to endure his driveway as is, or just leave him be. And it is with that spirit that I offer up the photo of the road to my Grandpa Dunn’s home in the woods of Sandy Branch, #DeepChatham, North Carolina.
 

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A friend taught at Goldston middle school in the 80s. I would often attend school functions as her "boyfriend". The parents accepted her better knowing she was not some old maid lol. It also stopped them from trying to set her up with the locals.
 
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A friend taught at Goldston middle school in the 80s. I would often attend school functions as her "boyfriend". The parents accepted her better knowing she was not some old maid lol. It also stopped them from trying to set her up with the locals.


Goldston was my high school haunt. The park there had basketball and tennis courts but more important in those days - the Goldston girls were almost as pretty as the ones from Robbins.

Your friend is probably better off not marrying #DeepChatham, unless it was someone who wanted to put the place behind them.
 
North Carolina’s original Senator No was Nathaniel Macon of the generation of our nation’s founding. He believed ferociously in states’ rights and minuscule government. He denounced The Constitution, and certainly supported the right to secede from our constitutional democratic republic (though he died long before the Civil War). He was frugal to a pain, voting against a monument to honor his friend George Washington upon his death because he believed that such an expenditure was beyond the purview of the federal government.



His colleagues called him a ‘negative radical’ and his almost automatic response to every act of government was NO. The historian, David Hackett Fischer, author of ‘Albion’s Seed: Four British Folkways in America,‘ wrote of four waves of invaders to these shores; Puritans (To New England), Cavaliers (To Virginia and the Carolina coast), Quakers (To Pennsylvania, New Jersey, and the Delaware Valley), and finally, the Backcountry Borderlanders (To the Carolina Piedmont and Appalachia). While Fischer’s book has not gone without criticism I have always found his Backcountry Borderlanders to bear a goodly likeness to the “To Be Rather Than To Seem” crowd of Tar Heel fame. The old saying, “A Vale of Humility Between Two Mountains of Conceit” also strikes a chord in this pondering. While Macon seems to have been of the financial means usually associated with Virginia’s Cavalier class, most of his sentiments appear to have rested with the less-elitist, more visceral Backcountry Borderlanders.



The Backcountry Borderlanders pushed themselves into the land far removed from the coast and as the wars and depredations of that movement resulted in the death and migration westward of the Native American population they spread throughout the region and farmed. This was #DeepChatham and #DeepAlamance, Randolph, Guilford, Moore, Orange, etc. Thus many that I grew up among, including my own self, are the descendants of the Backcountry Borderlanders. Many of the men that traded at my Deddy’s hardware store in #Bonlee showed the BB’s ‘so independent I’d cut off my nose to spite my face before I’d be told what to do’ attitude pretty consistently. It was a thing that had to be ‘got around’ if you were going to attend to them in retail.



My Grandpa Willis was one of that number. My Deddy somehow learned to be more open, less stubborn - I guess that’s what made him a good merchant. Historically folks in #DeepChatham had lived in a pretty dispersed pattern with homes surrounded by fields, pasture, and woodlands. No one was too closeby. Most homesteads were found down a long dirt road, preferably with a good view so as to see a visitor coming with plenty of time to prepare. The dogs could run out and escort anyone coming up that road sounding the alarm along the way. Grandpa’s beagles always ran beside us as we made our way in.



A family home was ideally essentially a Hermitage (Significantly the name that Andrew Jackson chose for his plantation to which he retired). Nathaniel Macon, remember him, said it best: “…no man ought to live so near another as to hear his neighbor's dog bark." Grandpa lived that way, though he had neighbors with whom he was close friends to be sure. My Deddy asked Grandpa many times if he could spruce up that road, in rainy times you pretty much had to ford a creek, but he always refused. I think he thought that you ought to want to see a man badly enough to endure his driveway as is, or just leave him be. And it is with that spirit that I offer up the photo of the road to my Grandpa Dunn’s home in the woods of Sandy Branch, #DeepChatham, North Carolina.
This post is an example I why I enjoy this board. Prior to today, I had no idea who Nathaniel Macon was. If forced to guess, I would have probably guessed, "Who Ft. Macon was named after?" But that's all it would have been, a guess. That it would have been a lucky guess is beside the point. Also that NC history is redolent with politicians who are absolute and complete jerks is not a surprise, but remains disappointing everytime my nose gets rubbed in yet another one. Notwithstanding my personal disappointment at yet one more entitled jerk who was born on third base and thinks he hit a triple, knowledge, regardless of the disappointment it can bring, is always better than ignorance.
 
This post is an example I why I enjoy this board. Prior to today, I had no idea who Nathaniel Macon was. If forced to guess, I would have probably guessed, "Who Ft. Macon was named after?" But that's all it would have been, a guess. That it would have been a lucky guess is beside the point. Also that NC history is redolent with politicians who are absolute and complete jerks is not a surprise, but remains disappointing everytime my nose gets rubbed in yet another one. Notwithstanding my personal disappointment at yet one more entitled jerk who was born on third base and thinks he hit a triple, knowledge, regardless of the disappointment it can bring, is always better than ignorance.
Agree this is a GREAT addition to the board. Thanks, donbosco. Reminds me of Joe, who used to post on one of the Clemson boards even as he approached his hundredth birthday. He was a great storyteller, and some of his stories about his time in the Korean War were all-timers. Also about his childhood in early 20th century rural Florida.
 
For years I would drive from CH to Lake Gaston In Warren County off of Eaton Ferry Road is Macon's grave I would frequently pull over and make the kids look at this historic site
They saw it as a punsihment lol
 
Agree this is a GREAT addition to the board. Thanks, donbosco. Reminds me of Joe, who used to post on one of the Clemson boards even as he approached his hundredth birthday. He was a great storyteller, and some of his stories about his time in the Korean War were all-timers. Also about his childhood in early 20th century rural Florida.
This is really starting to feel like the ZZL from 15-20 years ago.

And with a search function!
 
Appreciate the reads and the comments - I’ll probably have one of these every few days. Working on a book.
I hope Alexander Graham and his sons Frank Porter Graham and Archibald Wright "Moonlight" Graham will be in it. Every one of Alexander and Katherine Sloan Graham's 10 children graduated from college.
 
I hope Alexander Graham and his sons Frank Porter Graham and Archibald Wright "Moonlight" Graham will be in it. Every one of Alexander and Katherine Sloan Graham's 10 children graduated from college.
I’ve got a couple-three Graham family one’s cooking.
 
I’ve got a couple-three Graham family one’s cooking.
This thread oddly segued back to my Goldston middle school post.

My friend as mentioned above was the Teacher of the Year once. Went to the end of year deal where the teachers, etc. got various awards and whatnot. The guest speaker was Danny Lotz, member of the 57 championship team and, by the way, was married to Anne Graham, Billy's daughter.

He starts his talk and holy hell, it's Jesus this, Christ that and let's not forget the big guy up there directing it all. Throw in a few amens to that from the crowd and it was like some surreal Sunday morning First Church of God service. All in a public school. @DougDaBroadcasta would have had a meltdown. lol

A bit different world from our CH/Mann's Chapel Rd. one to say the least.
 
This thread oddly segued back to my Goldston middle school post.

My friend as mentioned above was the Teacher of the Year once. Went to the end of year deal where the teachers, etc. got various awards and whatnot. The guest speaker was Danny Lotz, member of the 57 championship team and, by the way, was married to Anne Graham, Billy's daughter.

He starts his talk and holy hell, it's Jesus this, Christ that and let's not forget the big guy up there directing it all. Throw in a few amens to that from the crowd and it was like some surreal Sunday morning First Church of God service. All in a public school. @DougDaBroadcasta would have had a meltdown. lol

A bit different world from our CH/Mann's Chapel Rd. one to say the least.


Sounds pretty #DeepChatham.
 
Coincidentally, I toured Fort Macon which was named for him, earlier this week during a visit to Atlantic Beach. The Pre-Civil War accommodations for soldiers were Spartan to say the least.
 
This thread oddly segued back to my Goldston middle school post.

My friend as mentioned above was the Teacher of the Year once. Went to the end of year deal where the teachers, etc. got various awards and whatnot. The guest speaker was Danny Lotz, member of the 57 championship team and, by the way, was married to Anne Graham, Billy's daughter.

He starts his talk and holy hell, it's Jesus this, Christ that and let's not forget the big guy up there directing it all. Throw in a few amens to that from the crowd and it was like some surreal Sunday morning First Church of God service. All in a public school. @DougDaBroadcasta would have had a meltdown. lol

A bit different world from our CH/Mann's Chapel Rd. one to say the least.
I was doing low voltage work in a public school west of Forsyth County years ago (will not say what school or district), and I watched representatives from the Gideons pile a bunch of their New Testaments on a table, and every single class was escorted out of their rooms and every student was forced to walk past it, with their representatives staring down at them, coercing them to take one with them.

This is not a joke. I saw this first hand. If it had happened in Forsyth County, I would've said something, and it would have probably cost me my job.
 
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