New Coach, new UNC Football Catch-all | UNC Hires Bill Belichick

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If I understand what I've read elsewhere correctly, our NIL budget just quadrupled. Even Mack could win the ACC with an Alabama NIL budget. And Belichick is a way better coach than Mack.

And I think his lack of college coaching experience is actually a benefit. It's a completely different world out there than it was 3 years ago. You don't win over the parents in the living room any more. You win over the parents and the player with a big bag of cash. Coaches who are stuck in their ways about how things used to be are gonna get left in the dust. I'm worried about Hubert in this regard.
 
OGtruthhurts said:
Odds are its not gonna work, but we have absolutely nothing to lose. Id prefer the young ambitious lower division coach with a minimum income contract stocked full of huge incentives, but im nobody.

Im a lot more concerned with our blue blood basketball program under Hubert Davis.
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If NIL truly is a problem, I don't see how this isn't going to make it even more difficult for HD to succeed.
 
DougDaBroadcasta said:
It's very simple.

This is the ultimate boom or bust hire.

UNC will be playing in December in Charlotte in the next two years, or this will set the program back decades. There is no middle on this.

I think he's too old to start to build a program. I hope I'm dead-ass wrong.
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Set the program back decades? We have a 53% winning percentage in our entire history. Set it back to what? You really think Belichick with a $20 million NIL budget is going to win less than half our games?
 
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This is the greatest non game day related day in the history of UNC football.

The monumental nature of this hire has yet to dawn on many of you. There is no one short of Nick Saban that would have been a bigger hire than this one. This is an historic hire that will change the face and very nature of UNC athletics.
 
Mundial said:
More importantly how is this guy who was a grade a, tier 1 A-hole in the NFL when dealing with men going to interact and deal with teenagers, young men and their families? Plus he's 72. SMH.
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You can be a little gruff and still command respect when you have 8 rings. He's mostly going to be a CEO, but now we actually have a viable company.
 
No one knows how this is going to end.... absolutely no one.

I will support our university with this hire until i feel like its not working.

I feel HD is not working and just going to get worse. Kids that we need to remain relevant dont want to play for him . We are no longer relevant unfortunately.
 


I think this is a pretty good analysis. I think it's a political power play, and I think Hubie's days are numbered without an NCAA bid.
 
stankeylegjones said:
Can't imagine it's going to be good for the basketball program, considering the consensus is that they're already far behind other programs with NIL support to players.
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Quite the opposite. Football has to be the financial driver for athletic departments going forward. This is a way to put UNC football and the entire athletic program in much better financial shape jn today's NIL world.
 
Basketball has "different " donors in part. I just mean they are Basketball centric. Every chit chat I see says the Basketball people know they have to step it up. And what is usually really good sources say even The King Dog basketball Billionaire , former player, has been suddenly woke on the issue
 
fourheels said:
Quite the opposite. Football has to be the financial driver for athletic departments going forward. This is a way to put UNC football and the entire athletic program in much better financial shape jn today's NIL world.
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Yep. Football revenues are where our AD revenues have real room to grow and we need those revenues throughout the AD.

If BBall folks are upset, then we can work to get them more money, but they need to realize that football isn't taking money from them and, if anything, football will likely put money in their pocket if we're reasonably successful.
 
mpaer said:
Basketball has "different " donors in part. I just mean they are Basketball centric. Every chit chat I see says the Basketball people know they have to step it up. And what is usually really good sources say even The King Dog basketball Billionaire , former player, has been suddenly woke on the issue
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Where did you see that MJ is woke on the issue? That would be pretty big, I'd assume.
 
Centerpiece said:
I never liked the guy. Hated him, Brady, New England all those years. Tough to take the fact that now the coach I’ve disliked, even hated is now the UNC head coach. Awkward. Conflicted. Ambivalent.
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+1. Feel the same. Hated him at New England. I didn't care for his cheating scandal, for beating the Panthers in heartbreaking fashion in the 2004 Super Bowl, and for always striking me as an egotistical jerk and asshole, to be perfectly honest. And while I'm hardly naive about college or pro sports or how they've been interconnected for decades, I am uneasy with the idea of turning UNC into little more than a college NFL program/team.

Having said all of that, it's also clear to me that the college sports world is very rapidly changing into nothing more than a professional sports league in which the highest bidders with the best NFL and NBA pipelines and connections are likely going to be the most successful, especially in attracting talented transfers. And Belicheck certainly is in a great spot to deliver - he can bring NIL money into the school, hire maybe the best coaching staff we've ever had, bring some real toughness to a soft football program (especially on defense), and he'll certainly put UNC football on the national scene and in the national conversation in a way it's rarely been before. And as others have pointed out, hopefully the new investment we put into UNC football will pay off even if he isn't wildly successful here.

So while I don't care for the guy, I'm a UNC fan first and so I truly hope he's as successful here as some think he will be. If he is then the new prominence of the football program will likely lead to increased revenues that will benefit all of our sports in NIL dealings, including basketball. No doubt it's a big gamble by UNC's athletic department, but given how many people have grown sick of our perpetual football mediocrity they can't complain that we're not aiming for something better this time. We'll see if it works soon enough.
 
Mulberry Heel said:
+1. Feel the same. Hated him at New England. I didn't care for his cheating scandal, for beating the Panthers in heartbreaking fashion in the 2004 Super Bowl, and for always striking me as an egotistical jerk and asshole, to be perfectly honest. And while I'm hardly naive about college or pro sports or how they've been interconnected for decades, I am uneasy with the idea of turning UNC into little more than a college NFL program/team.

Having said all of that, it's also clear to me that the college sports world is very rapidly changing into nothing more than a professional sports league in which the highest bidders with the best NFL and NBA pipelines and connections are likely going to be the most successful, especially in attracting talented transfers. And Belicheck certainly is in a great spot to deliver - he can bring NIL money into the school, hire maybe the best coaching staff we've ever had, bring some real toughness to a soft football program (especially on defense), and he'll certainly put UNC football on the national scene and in the national conversation in a way it's rarely been before. And as others have pointed out, hopefully the new investment we put into UNC football will pay off even if he isn't wildly successful here.

So while I don't care for the guy, I'm a UNC fan first and so I truly hope he's as successful here as some think he will be. If he is then the new prominence of the football program will likely lead to increased revenues that will benefit all of our sports in NIL dealings, including basketball. No doubt it's a big gamble by UNC's athletic department, but given how many people have grown sick of our perpetual football mediocrity they can't complain that we're not aiming for something better this time. We'll see if it works soon enough.
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Have to agree. Thus my ambivalence toward it all. But it just seems embarrassing for both school and coach. It’s embarrassing. Chapel Bill indeed. Dollar Bill. Embarrassing… “and you want to be my latex salesman” comes to mind….
 
stankeylegjones said:
Can't imagine it's going to be good for the basketball program, considering the consensus is that they're already far behind other programs with NIL support to players.
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They need to do the same with the basketball program as they are with the football program now.
 
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