"Nine Beers Americans No Longer Drink"

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hedge said:
Seeing that green bottle of Tuborg and a mention of Fowlers put me in mind of a beer we used to drink a lot of, but I haven't seen in a long time: Little Kings. Do they still make that anymore? The discussion of Guiness put me in mind of Thursday nights at Molly's (was there a name for it? International Night? I can't remember) where the exotic-at-the-time black and tans were the specialty of the evening. I still enjoy a Guiness, but mostly in the winner. Haven't seen a Bass Ale in awhile, but I'd sure buy a sixer or two if I ever saw one...
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I had a friend who liked black and tans. That was 50 years ago and I think the only place to get one around here was the Ivy Room in Durham.

Speaking of little and green, don't forget the little bottles of Rolling Rock.
 
finesse said:
Speaking of little and green, don't forget the little bottles of Rolling Rock.
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My dad used to drink those, I've still got one of the bottles (empty, of course) on the window sill in the laundry room..
 
I just have never thought there was a nickel's worth of difference b/w any of the American mass produced beers. They're basically sparkling water with a smidgen of hops added with a very slight malty flavor. I'm sure if you lined up a dozen of them and taste-tested them like that, you might be able to discern subtle differences, but to me, for all intents and purposes, they're basically the same thing. I could never understand when somebody was willing to go to the freakin' mat for, say, Bud Light over Miller Lite. Even people who would say that, say, Black Label or Olde Style was just too shitty to drink, I'd always be thinking "it's really no different than a Budweiser or Coors or anything else."

I feel pretty much the same way about American whiskey. Not that it tastes like Budweiser but that I've never been able to discern much if any difference b/w brands and mildly baffled and amused by people who say they love, say, Maker's Mark but absolutely can't drink, say, Knob Creek. I'm not saying there's no difference whatsoever b/w them (or any other bourbon), but not enough that somebody could love one and not be able to drink the other one, or even think there was a really big difference b/w them. I guess everyone's taste buds aren't the same but you'd think they were mostly the same...

I do keep a bottle of Old Overholt rye whiskey on hand for special occasions (it's about $15 a bottle)...
 
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uncsig said:
Does anyone else remember the "Schlitz challenge" that came to Chapel Hill one weekend in either the fall of 1980 or 1981? At least one iteration of it was staged in the parking lot of Fraternity Court. You drank samples of two unmarked beers and voted for your favorite. I think the beer being tasted against Schlitz was Michelob [but don't remember for sure]. Schlitz was prepared with an ad campaign saying something like X% of Chapel Hill beer drinkers preferred Schlitz over Michelob. The count as I remember was something like 80/20 preferring Michelob. What I don't remember is whether Schlitz went through with the planned ad.
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Yes, although your memory of it is greater than mine.
 
hedge said:
There was also some other beer in a green bottle, I think it was labeled as a cream ale (as I think Little Kings are, also) but I don't think it was Genesee. Or maybe it was...
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Genny Cream Ale... my first ex-wife's dad loved that stuff from when he was younger. We found him a 6 of it once and he thought Christmas had come early.
 
We used to get those ponies when we’d go drinking and driving around the county.

More empties to throw at road signs.
 
Centerpiece said:
Tend to agree with the distinction... But that’s why I qualified my comment with “was” And: “like Budweiser”.

I live a stones throw from Fonta Flora, one of the most prestigious, award winning craft breweries in NC. Small batch baby!

But I’ll stand by my original comment: “American beer like Budweiser is/was total shite.”
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Fonta Flora has some world class stuff. The ZZL beer thread guys turned me onto it and then we started seeing it pop up in NYC. Haven’t seen it lately that I can recall.

During the heart of the pandemic when I had fuck-all to do for fun but watch movies and drink beer, I’d order boxes of beer from great craft breweries that were very thankful for the shipping business (since they had zero walk-in). All the shipping regulations were relaxed. Anyway I ordered a box or two from FF. Great stuff.
 
duluoz said:
Fonta Flora has some world class stuff. The ZZL beer thread guys turned me onto it and then we started seeing it pop up in NYC. Haven’t seen it lately that I can recall.

During the heart of the pandemic when I had fuck-all to do for fun but watch movies and drink beer, I’d order boxes of beer from great craft breweries that were very thankful for the shipping business (since they had zero walk-in). All the shipping regulations were relaxed. Anyway I ordered a box or two from FF. Great stuff.
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Todd... the brew guy for FF. He was brew dude for Catawba Brewery as well - before Fonta. Ever heard of "White Zombie"? From Catawba days (before it was bought out). That's one of Todd's too. White Zombie® - Catawba Brewing

The man is the most true blue hipster, craft brewer you'll ever meet. And speaking of Europe brew-makers trying to catch up to America... Todd went to Europe a couple of times, to study (and taste) the brew-dudes from Germany and other parts (Belgium).
This was AFTER he'd already created some masterpieces of the craft brew world.
Fonta will be hosting another "State of Origin Craft Brew Fest" soon... About Fonta Flora Brewery
 
duluoz said:
Just a distinction here… Cheap American domestic beer has never been of the quality of inexpensive beer you’d find in Europe. But as for “American beer…” as a whole, that was only true in the ‘80s when you lived there, but not for much longer afterward. By the late ‘90s early ‘00s, the whole beer brewing world was playing catch-up, chasing American craft brewers and trying to imitate their beers (and mostly failing).

Since that boom, with very few exceptions, we have examples of nearly every style imaginable that are on par with the best old-world brewers. And many newer styles that nobody else even comes close to. In every US region and in most locales.

And many of those old-world brewers would tell you that themselves.
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Tend to agree. But that’s why I qualified my comment with “was”
And: “like Budweiser”. That said, I live a stones throw from Fonta Flora, one of the most prestigious, award winning craft breweries in NC. I know all about the craft beer scene.

But I’ll stand by my original comment
 
Wisconsin drinking laws
Possession, consumption, purchase, or procurement of alcohol beverages by an underage person is illegal, unless an exception applies. An underage person that is accompanied by a parent, guardian, or spouse of legal drinking age may possess, consume, purchase, or procure alcohol beverages. Additionally, alcohol beverages may be sold or served to accompanied underage persons in any licensed premises, at the discretion of the licensee.
So your Dad can take you to the bar and buy you a beer--if your 12
 
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