OFFICIAL ELECTION RESULTS - POTUS | TRUMP ELECTED 47th President

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Carolina Fever said:
Yes, that was the tipping point that made people vote for a narcissistic liar, cheat, crook, and convicted felon that tried to overthrow an election and bragged about sexually assaulting women.
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It matters on the margins, which is where this was decided.
 
Paine said:
No, not like those. Those are not progressive populist policies.

I’m talking about proposals that are easy to understand and would impact people immediately.

Medicare for All
Universal pre-K
Paid family leave
Tuition free college and trade schools
Support for unions
Higher taxes on the wealthy

Some of these polices Harris did propose, but she did not make it the central piece of her campaign. She talked much more about protecting democracy. No one who doesn’t follow politics obsessively knows wtf that means.
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She would get annihilated with those. She would’ve lost even worse. All anyone sees is with those is HIGHER TAXES FROM COMMIE KAMALA
 
Paine said:
No, not like those. Those are not progressive populist policies.

I’m talking about proposals that are easy to understand and would impact people immediately.

Medicare for All
Universal pre-K
Paid family leave
Tuition free college and trade schools
Support for unions
Higher taxes on the wealthy

Some of these polices Harris did propose, but she did not make it the central piece of her campaign. She talked much more about protecting democracy. No one who doesn’t follow politics obsessively knows wtf that means.
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Oh god. You’re living in fantasyland if you think this was policy other then rich getting richer.

It’s as if you don’t see the problem with every media outlet being owned by her opponents
 
lightbluenc said:
She would get annihilated with those. She would’ve lost even worse. All anyone sees is with those is HIGHER TAXES FROM COMMIE KAMALA
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Ok. I’m done talking about it for tonight. There’s no evidence to support your position.
 
Paine said:
No, not like those. Those are not progressive populist policies.

I’m talking about proposals that are easy to understand and would impact people immediately.

Medicare for All
Universal pre-K
Paid family leave
Tuition free college and trade schools
Support for unions
Higher taxes on the wealthy

Some of these polices Harris did propose, but she did not make it the central piece of her campaign. She talked much more about protecting democracy. No one who doesn’t follow politics obsessively knows wtf that means.
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If anyone doesn't know what Trump has done and what he has said and still voted for him then they are just an idiot. Again, it shouldn't have mattered what she proposed. There is NO reason for anyone to vote for someone like Trump. She could have said all that and those people would still vote for Trump even after everything he has done because they care more about their fascist Christian nation than anything else. It is half the country that is screwed up, either racists, bigots, selfish, or all of the above. It wasn't anything to do with her message.
 
Carolina Fever said:
Yes, that was the tipping point that made people vote for a narcissistic liar, cheat, crook, and convicted felon that tried to overthrow an election and bragged about sexually assaulting women.
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Yeah campaigning with a family member of someone with more blood on their hands than anyone alive… not smart. People remember the Cheney name.

Lots of mistakes were made in this campaign. People who think she ran a perfect one were living in a bubble.

Shouldn’t have even been the candidate.
 
lightbluenc said:
Dude biden beat Bernie in 2020 and Bernie had all those policies, and I loved Bernie, but that shit won’t ever get past hardcore social Dems.
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We’re talking about a general election, not a Democratic primary. Biden was dead in the water in that primary until every liberal dropped out and endorsed him to stop Bernie.
 
lightbluenc said:
That’s fine, I don’t care about charisma, that’s not something that affects presidential decision making. I like her strong demeanor, empathy and decision making skills.
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I agree but apparently there are a lot of others that don't. People vote for politicians, not technocrats. If we happen to get both in the same package, its a lucky accident, but you have to be an extraordinary politician to win.
 
Illithor said:
Yeah campaigning with a family member of someone with more blood on their hands than anyone alive… not smart. People remember the Cheney name.

Lots of mistakes were made in this campaign. People who think she ran a perfect one were living in a bubble.

Shouldn’t have even been the candidate.
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The candidate didn’t matter. Can’t you all see that? Trump didn’t even try to win cause he didn’t need to.
 
gtyellowjacket said:
I agree but apparently there are a lot of others that don't. People vote for politicians, not technocrats. If we happen to get both in the same package, its a lucky accident, but you have to be an extraordinary politician to win.
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People vote for who people tell them to. The technocrats and the media.

You guys are living in the past if you don’t see what’s happened. Everything is owned by a few and they control what you see.
 
Paine said:
It matters on the margins, which is where this was decided.
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Exactly. Nobody was getting the MAGA vote but putting up a fucking CHENEY on stage with you for weeks was not the way to get undecideds, libertarians, independents, etc.
 
Illithor said:
Exactly. Nobody was getting the MAGA vote but putting up a fucking CHENEY on stage with you for weeks was not the way to get undecideds, libertarians, independents, etc.
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All those libertarians, indies and undecideds were voting for trump regardless. It all boils down to voting for a woman and our country isn’t ready for it yet.
 
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