Pardons, Commutations and Dropped Prosecutions

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wmheel1287 said:
The first thing the next POTUS should do is issue an executive order rescinding every Trump pardon and arrest all of them again. Then that POTUS should work with Congress to end federal pardons altogether. The power should not exist.
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None of those things are at all constitutional. Although I guess you could say that Congress could start the ball rolling on getting a constitutional amendment ending Federal pardons. Good luck.
 
gtyellowjacket said:
None of those things are at all constitutional. Although I guess you could say that Congress could start the ball rolling on getting a constitutional amendment ending Federal pardons. Good luck.
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In case you haven't noticed, the constutution doesnt functionally exist any longer. We live in the world of the unitary executive now and that has been completely recognized by SCOTUS who refuses to reign it in.
 
wmheel1287 said:
In case you haven't noticed, the constutution doesnt functionally exist any longer. We live in the world of the unitary executive now and that has been completely recognized by SCOTUS who refuses to reign it in.
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Sure. Let me know how that one goes. Do you have any other suggestions for when the next president gets into office?
 
gtyellowjacket said:
Sure. Clean up our foreign policy reputation and fix our immigration policy. Get those Epstein files out there.
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That would require having a Dem in the Oval office. Dem presidents have been very good at cleaning up our foreign policy over the past 15 years. We also negotiated a bi-partisan immigration reform bill that passed the Senate but the GQPer House Speaker refused to allow a vote in the House, so we also need a Dem Congress.
 
heelinhell said:
That would require having a Dem in the Oval office. Dem presidents have been very good at cleaning up our foreign policy over the past 15 years. We also negotiated a bi-partisan immigration reform bill that passed the Senate but the GQPer House Speaker refused to allow a vote in the House, so we also need a Dem Congress.
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Yep. Very likely.
 


I don’t want to make the thread title any longer but it should also cover prosecutions and investigations that are never undertaken, as with the. Income Good shooting and eliminating most of the personnel who would investigate alleged law enforcement violations of constitutional rights.
 
lawtig02 said:
Absolutely. It’s one of the most vulgar remnants of our monarchical roots. We’re now seeing how a tyrant uses that absolute power.
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Don't like to quote myself, but --


Ghislaine Maxwell, who was sentenced to prison for 20 years for conspiring with Jeffrey Epstein to abuse minors, sent a clear message to Donald Trump on Monday that if the president were to grant her clemency, she would clear his name of any wrongdoing as it pertains to Epstein.

The extraordinary overture, stated by Maxwell’s lawyer Monday morning during her virtual deposition before the House Oversight Committee, ensures the Epstein saga will continue to remain a political hotspot.
 
wmheel1287 said:
The first thing the next POTUS should do is issue an executive order rescinding every Trump pardon and arrest all of them again. Then that POTUS should work with Congress to end federal pardons altogether. The power should not exist.
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Article 2, Section 2, Clause 1, Presidential Pardon Power. The Constitution had a nice run. It has probably lasted longer than the draftors ever envisaged. St. Donald of Mar-a-Lago was always a "when" proposition, not an "if". And when it happened, the opposition was full of people like me rather than people like my father. Damn.
 
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