Roof collapse at Dominican Republic nightclub

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Catastrophic. Sounds like some prominent Dominicans in there too.

In my travels I’ve definitely been in places just like that, where you look around and think, “are we sure about this place??”
 
Death toll up to 184. This is one of those stories my brain understands the basic mechanics, while concurrently experiencing bafflement. 184 people killed by a roof collapse? Like, how does something get to such a point without remediation? I then recall events such as Hyatt Regency walkway collapse - Wikipedia, and I'm reminded that incompetence and corner cutting are all around us.
 
And with St. Donald of Mar-a-Lago busily protecting Americans from bloated government over-reach, this is a prescient preview of what "Trump's America" will look like. There's a reason why I didn't retire to some stately pleasure dome on a Caribbean isle, where I could avoid being constantly harassed by meddlesome government regulators and inspectors.
 
Healing said:
Death toll up to 184. This is one of those stories my brain understands the basic mechanics, while concurrently experiencing bafflement. 184 people killed by a roof collapse? Like, how does something get to such a point without remediation? I then recall events such as Hyatt Regency walkway collapse - Wikipedia, and I'm reminded that incompetence and corner cutting are all around us.
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There was that condo collapse in Florida just a few years ago, too.

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Surfside condominium collapse - Wikipedia

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duluoz said:
Catastrophic. Sounds like some prominent Dominicans in there too.

In my travels I’ve definitely been in places just like that, where you look around and think, “are we sure about this place??”
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We have a family cottage in the Finger Lakes like that. It was built nearly 120 years ago by people who were not professional builders and there’s nothing about it that would pass inspection if it were built today (or probably ever). We ask my uncle, who is an architect, what can be done to ensure the place is structurally sound. He says we can’t do anything because if you bring in an engineer, they would tell us nothing about the cottage is structurally sound and it needs to be torn down completely. But the fact that it’s been standing for nearly 120 years gives us that sense of security that we need.
 
Icky Mettle said:
We have a family cottage in the Finger Lakes like that. It was built nearly 120 years ago by people who were not professional builders and there’s nothing about it that would pass inspection if it were built today (or probably ever). We ask my uncle, who is an architect, what can be done to ensure the place is structurally sound. He says we can’t do anything because if you bring in an engineer, they would tell us nothing about the cottage is structurally sound and it needs to be torn down completely. But the fact that it’s been standing for nearly 120 years gives us that sense of security that we need.
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Icky Mettle said:
We have a family cottage in the Finger Lakes like that. It was built nearly 120 years ago by people who were not professional builders and there’s nothing about it that would pass inspection if it were built today (or probably ever). We ask my uncle, who is an architect, what can be done to ensure the place is structurally sound. He says we can’t do anything because if you bring in an engineer, they would tell us nothing about the cottage is structurally sound and it needs to be torn down completely. But the fact that it’s been standing for nearly 120 years gives us that sense of security that we need.
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I get the logic where it sounds like you either let it ride or tear it down. But I grew up in CA, where seismic activity is a way of life. I’ve never really heard of notable quakes up around the Finger Lakes, but I’d probably wear a helmet if I came to visit 😬
 
Icky Mettle said:
We have a family cottage in the Finger Lakes like that. It was built nearly 120 years ago by people who were not professional builders and there’s nothing about it that would pass inspection if it were built today (or probably ever). We ask my uncle, who is an architect, what can be done to ensure the place is structurally sound. He says we can’t do anything because if you bring in an engineer, they would tell us nothing about the cottage is structurally sound and it needs to be torn down completely. But the fact that it’s been standing for nearly 120 years gives us that sense of security that we need.
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Oh, sure, everthing's all fine and dandy until . . . https://www.ithaca.com/news/here-th...cle_6ea32908-90e7-11e8-879f-63ae3308b591.html

Once the attacks start, then you'll be wishing you had shored-up the place.
 
Healing said:
Death toll up to 184. This is one of those stories my brain understands the basic mechanics, while concurrently experiencing bafflement. 184 people killed by a roof collapse? Like, how does something get to such a point without remediation? I then recall events such as Hyatt Regency walkway collapse - Wikipedia, and I'm reminded that incompetence and corner cutting are all around us.
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Brings back memories. I stayed at that same Hyatt Regency hotel in KC with my family for my first UNC game in person. UNC played Kansas at Kemper Arena in January 1981. Tough game - lost by one. The team stayed at the same hotel. My brother and I took a photo with Matt Doherty, who was still wearing a cast from when he broke his wrist at a movie theater a few months prior. I know I ran along the same walkway that collapsed when I was there, and freaked out when I heard the news of the collapse seven months later.
 
Death toll up to 225. Some heartbreaking stories.
Reading that the building was more than 50 years old. Questions popping up about design, how much load was on the roof and a fire a few years back that may have had an impact.
Amazing that the governor who died had a chance to call the president about the disaster.
 
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Icky Mettle said:
We have a family cottage in the Finger Lakes like that. It was built nearly 120 years ago by people who were not professional builders and there’s nothing about it that would pass inspection if it were built today (or probably ever). We ask my uncle, who is an architect, what can be done to ensure the place is structurally sound. He says we can’t do anything because if you bring in an engineer, they would tell us nothing about the cottage is structurally sound and it needs to be torn down completely. But the fact that it’s been standing for nearly 120 years gives us that sense of security that we need.
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I spent many nights in a wonderful “cottage” on the west shore of Canandaigua Lake.

That place is still standing and it would never pass inspection.

It should have had the electricity cut-off in the ‘70’s.

Ditto on a friend’s house on the coast of Maine.
 
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