SCOTUS Catch-all | SCOTUS overturns IEEPA Trump tariffs

[superrific]

He can't really, deep down, believe that his fellow justices (nor even anybody liable to read the full text of a Supreme Court decision) don't understand the US government on a 4th grade level. I refuse to believe that.

I can believe he's a pompous ass that thinks that keeping things at a 4th grade level provides cover for whatever bullshit argument he's inventing at the moment to get to a ruling in favor of his preferred outcome. I'd buy that.

Gorsuch identifies as a libertarian, and this is just how libertarians talk. You've probably seen it. To them, every economic issue is answered by Econ 101, and they tend to quote simple toy models as if they carry timeless truths. I can't tell you how many times I've been doing more sophisticated economic analysis, only to have some libertarian wander in and say, "but, but, Econ 101." I have to say, "yeah, I moved past that a while ago. This is upper-level material."

Federalist Society members also like to talk this way. It's always first principles from them. They like it because the first principles are so vague that they can state the principles, pretend some wacky idea follows from those principles, and mic-drop in their head.

Sadly, this is commonplace in the legal academy.

 

[Ddseddse]

hey like it because the first principles are so vague that they can state the principles, pretend some wacky idea follows from those principles, and mic-drop in their head.

This. 1000 x this.

 

[nycfan]

Putting clips in the shit Trump says thread

 

[ChileG]

SCOTUS just saved our economy....

And when the stock market reacts positively, MAGA will give the credit to Trump.

 

[dukeman92]

 

[OMB]

 

[C-Money]

 

[heelinhell]

So it seems like Gorsuch is apologizing to Trump and MAGA nation for having to follow the Constitution ?

 

[mpaer]

So it seems like Gorsuch is apologizing to Trump and MAGA nation for having to follow the Constitution ?

Jesus
Sounds liike some relatively dumb civics teacher who thinks he is a world class Historian

 

[ZenMode]

And when the stock market reacts positively, MAGA will give the credit to Trump.

Maybe, but who cares? This is a huge decision and a huge smackdown of Trump's misuse of emergency powers.

 

[Geisterfahrer]

Yes ... sort of. The trade damage with some of our biggest partners isn't going to be fixed by one Supreme Court opinion. Canadians aren't going back to Disney World anytime in the near future.

I could see them returning in 2029.

 

[BlueSmoke]

I can't believe they released this opinion before the State of the Union. I wasn't going to tune in on Tuesday, but it's now going to be the best show of the year............especially for any of those Justices who show up.

 

[ChileG]

Maybe, but who cares? This is a huge decision and a huge smackdown of Trump's misuse of emergency powers.

I care to insult MAGAs intelligence, which was the point of my post.

 

[nycfan]

 

[nycfan]

I guess exchanges like this are why it took them so long to “expedite” this decision?

 

[lawtig02]

Here's where I am after a quick read through the opinion.

1. At least the plurality got it right. The dissents are humiliating works of quasi-legal analysis.
2. This was a super easy legal question. In any other timeline, it would be astonishing we couldn't get a unanimous opinion.
3. Trump's response to this was probably the most embarrassing moment of either of his presidencies, and there have been some doozies. He somehow managed to fuck over the core constitutional principles of separation of powers and judicial review, as well as any conception of free market capitalism, all at the same time.

These are the moments that we need our Republican posters to engage. But you always seem to shrink from the moment. Help us understand how Trump's actions today advance the principles you say caused you to vote for him. Or denounce him. Many of us here had to screw up the courage to denounce the people we voted for. Will you do the same?