Trump Dictatorship

MendotoManteo

MendotoManteo

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I will leave this here and won't comment much, as I often just post then flee. Because I don't really feel like talking.

But here's what's going to happen:

Assuming this guy lives, due to his age and health, he's going to declare at some point that he was robbed for 2020 and that he's due another term because non-sequence.

The economy will be bad at this point, but because the right wing basically controls the media, he will be able to manipulate people into believing it was all somehow Joe Biden's or Obama's faults. And many dumb Americans will believe it.

And if you think 2028 will be a free and fair election, I've got some news for you! Perhaps 2026 mid-term will be, but I have my doubts about that too.

I hate to say this but the only hope we really have at this point, barring some magnificent left populist coming out of the middle of nowhere, is corporatists deciding their tax cuts aren't worth it anymore.

Too many things at play, but I think this is how it will basically go down.
 
Not sure i would go as far as the OP, but agree they will do all they possibly can to make that happen (see Texas today).

I just hope they keep stabbing each other in the back and making their obvious incompetence undeniable for just enough of the masses to turn the tide
 
MendotoManteo said:
I will leave this here and won't comment much, as I often just post then flee. Because I don't really feel like talking.

But here's what's going to happen:

Assuming this guy lives, due to his age and health, he's going to declare at some point that he was robbed for 2020 and that he's due another term because non-sequence.

The economy will be bad at this point, but because the right wing basically controls the media, he will be able to manipulate people into believing it was all somehow Joe Biden's or Obama's faults. And many dumb Americans will believe it.

And if you think 2028 will be a free and fair election, I've got some news for you! Perhaps 2026 mid-term will be, but I have my doubts about that too.

I hate to say this but the only hope we really have at this point, barring some magnificent left populist coming out of the middle of nowhere, is corporatists deciding their tax cuts aren't worth it anymore.

Too many things at play, but I think this is how it will basically go down.
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This all squares fairly well. It certainly fits the narrative thus far in Maga/trump world. I left the country in 1985 when Reagan was inaugurated for the 2nd time. Passport was just re-upped. Loads of friends in far away places… I have no qualms about living abroad again.

Bring it on I say. Fuck ‘Em. Fuck ‘Em all.
 
I think that trying to game out stuff like this over the next few years is not just unproductive, but counterproductive. Part of the reason that Trump got elected again in 2024 (and almost got re-elected in 2020) is because liberals and leftists were breathlessly predicting things like martial law and concentration camps for "undesirables" and when that kind of stuff didn't happen it just made most normie Americans shrug their shoulders and say "that wasn't true last time" when the same stuff was predicted in the leadup to 2024.

To be very clear, I just think it's very possible that Trump will try to contrive a way to hold onto power after 2028 (though personally I think the most likely route he would take is running as a VP on a ticket with a figurehead presidential candidate, maybe even one of his children). I also think it's very possible he and his political allies will continue to ty to restrict voting access in blue areas of the country, in an attempt to depress turnout. But we really have no way to predict what the political situation is going to look like in 2026, much less in 2028, so trying to make these sorts of predictions so far in advance is pointless (and, as noted above, is often likely to end up looking like hysterical fearmongering).
 
rodoheel said:
I think that trying to game out stuff like this over the next few years is not just unproductive, but counterproductive. Part of the reason that Trump got elected again in 2024 (and almost got re-elected in 2020) is because liberals and leftists were breathlessly predicting things like martial law and concentration camps for "undesirables" and when that kind of stuff didn't happen it just made most normie Americans shrug their shoulders and say "that wasn't true last time" when the same stuff was predicted in the leadup to 2024.

To be very clear, I just think it's very possible that Trump will try to contrive a way to hold onto power after 2028 (though personally I think the most likely route he would take is running as a VP on a ticket with a figurehead presidential candidate, maybe even one of his children). I also think it's very possible he and his political allies will continue to ty to restrict voting access in blue areas of the country, in an attempt to depress turnout. But we really have no way to predict what the political situation is going to look like in 2026, much less in 2028, so trying to make these sorts of predictions so far in advance is pointless (and, as noted above, is often likely to end up looking like hysterical fearmongering).
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Rodo, they’ve literally built concentration camps and are building more. They literally deployed the Marines in an American city. They literally just made a domestic thug force the fifth most resourced militarized unit on the planet. They are literally rigging the’26 election in front of our eyes. They literally have a plan for mass domestic deployment of th military. New Hegseth Leak Reveals Secret Plan for Years of Troops on U.S. Streets
 
MendotoManteo said:
I will leave this here and won't comment much, as I often just post then flee. Because I don't really feel like talking.

But here's what's going to happen:

Assuming this guy lives, due to his age and health, he's going to declare at some point that he was robbed for 2020 and that he's due another term because non-sequence.

The economy will be bad at this point, but because the right wing basically controls the media, he will be able to manipulate people into believing it was all somehow Joe Biden's or Obama's faults. And many dumb Americans will believe it.

And if you think 2028 will be a free and fair election, I've got some news for you! Perhaps 2026 mid-term will be, but I have my doubts about that too.

I hate to say this but the only hope we really have at this point, barring some magnificent left populist coming out of the middle of nowhere, is corporatists deciding their tax cuts aren't worth it anymore.

Too many things at play, but I think this is how it will basically go down.
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"but because the right wing basically controls the media,"

Maybe the most unaware, ignorant comment ever posted on the old zzl or new zzl. This is the equivalent of radicalized jihadist level of brainwashing (without the violence) and completely ignores all recent instances of leftist media's lies. When you can't even acknowledge the left's grip on the media, outside of fox and a few others, its time for the cult branding.
 
Callatoroy said:
"but because the right wing basically controls the media,"

Maybe the most unaware, ignorant comment ever posted on the old zzl or new zzl. This is the equivalent of radicalized jihadist level of brainwashing (without the violence) and completely ignores all recent instances of leftist media's lies. When you can't even acknowledge the left's grip on the media, outside of fox and a few others, its time for the cult branding.
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Serious question. Does the calendar on your wall say 1965? It's like you're posting from the other side of a time portal.
 
Glasnost1988 said:
You think that’s the truth???

You make fun of Ram… if you are as smart as you claim to be you know CNN, MSNBC, NBC, CBS and ABC have been DNC propaganda machines for decades.

The GOP has Fox News. The others don’t even register.
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Sorry, Ram. Didn't mean to hurt your feelings.
 
Glasnost1988 said:
You think that’s the truth???

You make fun of Ram… if you are as smart as you claim to be you know CNN, MSNBC, NBC, CBS and ABC have been DNC propaganda machines for decades.

The GOP has Fox News. The others don’t even register.
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As is wapo, nytimes, npr, chicago tribune, etc. etc. etc. I think the left just thinks the right has control of the media because fox kicks the asses of the left's media outlets, but it isn't even debatable to anyone who isn't a cultist. You can't even begin a discussion with someone who believes the right controls the media because they are starting from a place of ignorance. I can acknowledge the influence fox has on the right, but damn at the stupidity of people who can't acknowledge that the mainstream media has been in the tank for the left for decades.
 
Truth, facts, math, and science have all had a liberal bias for decades.

That's why trump needs "alternative facts" to level the playing field. In a world with woke math where 2+2=4, it isn't fair for Republicans.

It's only fair that trump can claim gas is $1.89/gallon, he's gonna bring drug prices down 1,500%, and he has to fire the commissioner of BLS for reporting facts.
 
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Callatoroy said:
As is wapo, nytimes, npr, chicago tribune, etc. etc. etc. I think the left just thinks the right has control of the media because fox kicks the asses of the left's media outlets, but it isn't even debatable to anyone who isn't a cultist. You can't even begin a discussion with someone who believes the right controls the media because they are starting from a place of ignorance. I can acknowledge the influence fox has on the right, but damn at the stupidity of people who can't acknowledge that the mainstream media has been in the tank for the left for decades.
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I think you're right, but with an asterisk of sorts. I definitely believe that historically the "mainstream media" (by which I mean outlets like CBS, ABC, NBC, NYT, WaPo, NPR, etc.) has had a significantly more liberal lean than conservative. I think it's for a lot of the same reasons that academia has historically had a more liberal lean than conservative, which is to say, that conservatives have largely eschewed going into the field of journalism altogether. I don't think that there was ever some Illumniati-esque meeting of the media minds where it was decided that mainstream media outlets would lean liberal versus conservative; I think a lot of it was self-selection, as I mentioned. In other words, I don't think that the mainstream media became liberal in the aggregate out of spite for conservatives or for nefarious reasons (to borrow a phrase from Michael Jordan: "conservatives buy newspapers, too"). I think it happened naturally as a result of the self-selection I mentioned, and then continued to perpetuate itself for decades.

Something that I think that conservatives have done, though, as a result of the mainstream media having a liberal bend, is absolutely kick the left's ass when it comes to creating and sustaining an entire media ecosystem dedicated to propping up the conservative party. CNN and MSNBC are child's play, IMO, compared to Fox- and by that I mean their reach and influence. (That's not to say that they aren't liberal-biased; they are. I just mean that they aren't nearly as effective at message-shaping and agenda-setting as is Fox).

So while the mainstream media is definitely liberal-biased, the right wing media ecosystem that started with Fox and has since spawned off countless podcasters, social media personalities, influencers, etc. is extraordinarily more successful at crafting and disseminating unified messaging that benefits the conservative party, than the mainstream media is at doing the same for the liberal party. I absolutely hate most of the right wing media ecosystem for its propensity for lying and grifting, but I am both envious and in awe of its effectiveness. It's something for which the left has had no match historically, currently has no match, and will likely never have a match- to the detriment of the Democratic Party. So while the historic norm has been that the mainstream media has been significantly biased in favor of liberals, I think that their effectiveness in crafting and disseminating messaging that favors the Democrats is at an all-time low compared to that of Fox & Co. And I think it's going to continue to cost Democrats dearly at election time.
 
rodoheel said:
I think that trying to game out stuff like this over the next few years is not just unproductive, but counterproductive. Part of the reason that Trump got elected again in 2024 (and almost got re-elected in 2020) is because liberals and leftists were breathlessly predicting things like martial law and concentration camps for "undesirables" and when that kind of stuff didn't happen it just made most normie Americans shrug their shoulders and say "that wasn't true last time" when the same stuff was predicted in the leadup to 2024.
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That shit is literally happening now
 
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