Trump / Musk (other than DOGE)

[Mulberry Heel]

You guys control the Senate. Should be hard to blame Democrats if you can’t get Trump’s whacko nominees approved, but they’re already laying groundwork to blame Democrats for the GOP doing and end-around on the ordinary appointment process with a recess appointment stunt.

Recess appointments would require the Senate to be recessed at least 10 days and the resulting appointment is only good for the rest of the session (though presumably he could do it again next year, I guess).

The question would be how does the recess happen?

“… there are two paths Trump could take to making recess appointments.

The first would involve the Senate agreeing to recess for 10 days or more by majority vote.

The second would involve the House voting for a longer recess than the Senate, which would allow Trump to invoke a never-used constitutional power to adjourn both chambers of Congress.

According to the US Constitution, "in Case of Disagreement" a president can adjourn both chambers of Congress until "such Time as he shall think proper" - which would then provide Trump an opportunity to make recess appointments.

Trump previously threatened to use this power when he was in the White House.

In 2020, during a pandemic briefing, Trump said that he would "exercise my constitutional authority to adjourn both chambers of Congress” to make recess appointments if his nominees before Congress were not approved. …”

Vetting Trump nominees: What are recess appointments? - BBC News

Nominees can face a lengthy Senate vetting process before taking office, though Trump may try to upend that exercise in some cases.

www.bbc.com

Hmmm. Democrats don't have a majority in either House of Congress, yet it will be their fault if the Senate doesn't confirm all of his idiot, lunatic appointments. This doesn't surprise me at all, as Trump and his minions all learned in the campaign that they can tell all the blatant lies they want and their base will still lap them up. I'm sure that anything that goes wrong in this administration (and the way we're going there will be lots that go wrong) will somehow be blamed on the Democrats, despite the fact that they don't control a single branch of the federal government.

 

[CFordUNC]

In all seriousness, if they ban diet Dr Pepper, I am liable to make January 6 look like a fucking tea party.

 

[HeelYeah2012]

I am so damn excited to see RFK fuck with Mountain Dew, Doritos, Oreos, etc. not because I care one bit one way or the other about artificial processed foods, but because I cannot wait for people to blow a gasket because their Chips Ahoy and their Lucky Charms suddenly taste like molten ass crack. Anyone who has ever tried the organic versions of popular cereals knows exactly what I’m talking about. One of my wife’s aunts keeps that shit at one of the vacation houses we go to, and let me just tell you, it tastes like unmitigated ass.

To be sure, the main solution to making America healthy again is obviously is to shift dietary preferences in general towards whole foods and not processed foods. That goes without saying.

But even when it comes to these processed foods, there are harmful dyes and other toxic chemicals that need to be removed from American food yesterday. If you take the sugar out then yeah the taste will suffer bigly. But take the dyes out and I’m not sure the taste will suffer? Guess maybe we will see.

I don’t claim to be an expert on food ingredients but I do agree with RFK that Big Pharma loves the status quo of America being the sickest country in the developed world and being dependent on medications left and right.

 

[uncjhodges]

Hilarious that righties are now championing government regulation of foods, after years of bitching about how Dems were trying to take away your Big Gulps and your SuperSized fast food meals.

Oh, I’m sure you all will gladly embrace higher food prices and fewer choices that go along with fewer preservatives.

The shamelessness of these fucking idiots

 

[Zoo_View]

I am so damn excited to see RFK fuck with Mountain Dew, Doritos, Oreos, etc. not because I care one bit one way or the other about artificial processed foods, but because I cannot wait for people to blow a gasket because their Chips Ahoy and their Lucky Charms suddenly taste like molten ass crack. Anyone who has ever tried the organic versions of popular cereals knows exactly what I’m talking about. One of my wife’s aunts keeps that shit at one of the vacation houses we go to, and let me just tell you, it tastes like unmitigated ass.

Robert Kennedy, Jr. had better not go after McDonald’s or KFC…..that’ll piss off the fittest, manliest POTUS ever.

 

[HeelYeah2012]

Hilarious that righties are now championing government regulation of foods, after years of bitching about how Dems were trying to take away your Big Gulps and your SuperSized fast food meals.

Oh, I’m sure you all will gladly embrace higher food prices and fewer choices that go along with fewer preservatives.

I have literally never accused a single Democrat for trying to take away Big Gulps or fast food, so idk what you’re talking about.

I’m more than willing to pay higher prices for healthy foods with fewer preservatives. I can’t think of a more worthwhile thing in the world to pay a premium for than healthy food with real ingredients. That’s critical to the mission of having a country with less obesity, longer lives, less anxiety, etc.

 

[rodoheel]

I have literally never accused a single Democrat for trying to take away Big Gulps or fast food, so idk what you’re talking about.

I’m more than willing to pay higher prices for healthy foods with fewer preservatives. I can’t think of a more worthwhile thing in the world to pay a premium for than healthy food with real ingredients. That’s critical to the mission of having a country with less obesity, longer lives, less anxiety, etc.

Most people on this board would agree with you, but I’m confident that most MAGA voters do not.

 

[sringwal]

The past was alterable. The past never had been altered. Oceania was at war with Eastasia. Oceania had always been at war with Eastasia.​

 

[finesse]

I have literally never accused a single Democrat for trying to take away Big Gulps or fast food, so idk what you’re talking about.

I’m more than willing to pay higher prices for healthy foods with fewer preservatives. I can’t think of a more worthwhile thing in the world to pay a premium for than healthy food with real ingredients. That’s critical to the mission of having a country with less obesity, longer lives, less anxiety, etc.

What an elitist prick. How about the poor who can barely pay for enough of any kind of food?

 

[CFordUNC]

Americans are obese and unhealthy not because of artificial processed ingredients in junk food, but because 1. junk food/fast food is significantly cheaper than fresh whole foods, produce, whole grains, etc.; 2. so few of our cities and towns are walkable and instead require automobile transportation anywhere you want to go; 3. Most of America is rural, and most of rural America is a food desert.

I spent 10 days in Italy earlier this year and gorged myself on pasta, wine, and every possible sweet, pastry, and gelato known to Italian mankind every single meal, and not only did I not gain weight, I lost a little bit- because we were walking 15-20,000+ steps daily. The ingredients in our foods are not the problem. It is our sedentary lifestyles, our automobile reliant lifestyles, our desire to buy the cheapest food possible, and also our desire to deport the people who actually harvest our healthiest foods, thus making them even more expensive when there is nobody to pick them and they are withering on the vine or in the field.

 

[Calheel]

To be sure, the main solution to making America healthy again is obviously is to shift dietary preferences in general towards whole foods and not processed foods. That goes without saying.

But even when it comes to these processed foods, there are harmful dyes and other toxic chemicals that need to be removed from American food yesterday. If you take the sugar out then yeah the taste will suffer bigly. But take the dyes out and I’m not sure the taste will suffer? Guess maybe we will see.

I don’t claim to be an expert on food ingredients but I do agree with RFK that Big Pharma loves the status quo of America being the sickest country in the developed world and being dependent on medications left and right.

Not even close. Get Americans off their fat asses and exercise. That is No. 1 health goal. But we’ve built an entire society around the automobile so “fat” chance anyone gets this country moving like it should.

 

[rodoheel]

Some general advice for all of us, including me: there is little point in hysteria over the next couple months about Trump’s cabinet picks. The hysteria needs to be saved for when they actually do crazy shit. There is no point fretting for the next two months about the crazy shit we think they’ll do, as while some of our predictions will be true, others will not. And spreading hysteria about all the crazy things they’ll do will just make more casual observers numb to it when it actually happens, especially if it isnt quite as crazy as we’ve feared.

 

[EyeballKid]

I have literally never accused a single Democrat for trying to take away Big Gulps or fast food, so idk what you’re talking about.

I’m more than willing to pay higher prices for healthy foods with fewer preservatives. I can’t think of a more worthwhile thing in the world to pay a premium for than healthy food with real ingredients. That’s critical to the mission of having a country with less obesity, longer lives, less anxiety, etc.

And what about the many tens of millions of people that already can’t afford a decent healthy diet?

Oh, I forgot…you’re one of the multitudes of righties who doesn’t give a fuck about other folks.

 

[HeelYeah2012]

Most people on this board would agree with you, but I’m confident that most MAGA voters do not.

Maybe or maybe not. But I don’t form my opinions based on what other people on “my side” might tend to think. I form my own opinions and I think that’s what everyone should do.

Making our foods healthier is a way bigger issue to me than almost every political issue we debate on here all the time, whether it’s guns or abortion or transgenders in sports. But historically it’s never seemed to me like any politicians have ever taken this on as a primary cause. It seems like RFK wants to. I hope he can get it done.

 

[Mulberry Heel]

Most people on this board would agree with you, but I’m confident that most MAGA voters do not.

Yeah, it's pretty ridiculous to claim that most Americans are going to happily pay higher prices for less-tasty snacks and foods. And the moment that polls show that any part of his base is upset at these "healthy lifestyle" changes, then Trump will dump RFK, Jr. so fast that he'll get whiplash on his way out of DC. Based on what I've read RFK, Jr. is very similar to Trump in terms of ego and personal (mis)behavior, and I suspect that the two of them are going to quickly clash and not get along all that well.

 

[HeelYeah2012]

And what about the many tens of millions of people that already can’t afford a decent healthy diet?

Oh, I forgot…you’re one of the multitudes of righties who doesn’t give a fuck about other folks.

If you think me wanting food to be healthier means I don’t give a fuck about other people, you’ve got it all backwards. Getting toxic chemicals out of our food should not be a political issue whatsoever.

 

[Calheel]

Americans are obese and unhealthy not because of artificial processed ingredients in junk food, but because 1. junk food/fast food is significantly cheaper than fresh whole foods, produce, whole grains, etc.; 2. so few of our cities and towns are walkable and instead require automobile transportation anywhere you want to go; 3. Most of America is rural, and most of rural America is a food desert.

I spent 10 days in Italy earlier this year and gorged myself on pasta, wine, and every possible sweet, pastry, and gelato known to Italian mankind every single meal, and not only did I not gain weight, I lost a little bit- because we were walking 15-20,000+ steps daily. The ingredients in our foods are not the problem. It is our sedentary lifestyles, our automobile reliant lifestyles, our desire to buy the cheapest food possible, and also our desire to deport the people who actually harvest our healthiest foods, thus making them even more expensive when there is nobody to pick them and they are withering on the vine or in the field.

Ding ding ding.

We spend more on health care than any other country but we have some of the very worst health outcomes. And CFord nailed the two reasons why.

Ain’t a dang thing RFK Jr can do about either problem.

 

[finesse]

Biggest issue isn't making the foods healthier. It's making the portion sizes congruent with the exercises. We eat too damn much too damn often.

 

[Mulberry Heel]

At some point the Elon Trump bromance is going to blow up. And it will be fucking wonderful.

There is no way in Hell these two will coexist for long now that the public adoration phase is over.

IMO, the same thing will happen with Trump and RFK, Jr. From what I've read he is also an egomaniac and narcissist just like Trump with just as many scandals in his past. I think they'll eventually clash as well.

 

[EyeballKid]

If you think me wanting food to be healthier means I don’t give a fuck about other people, you’ve got it all backwards. Getting toxic chemicals out of our food should not be a political issue whatsoever.

I think you’re wholly ignorant of the issue, impacts, and costs, and you’re just championing this because it’s a nice sound bite that makes you feel warm and fuzzy.