Trump / Musk (other than DOGE)

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Callatoroy said:
I think it is interesting reading all the doom and gloom by people who have never, or have limited experience working in the private sector, or have been employed in jobs where policy is driven by theory. A 25% reduction in the fed workforce is certainly very doable. Change is never easy but this should be very doable and DOGE is something everyone should embrace on the whole. This is long, long overdue.
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Yes Private sector are all geniuses.. Try running the freaking welfare system in say NC. Basic Fed money, State %, then 100 freaking counties with their own "take" on things
Or run a cardboard factory in an an era when amazon blows up
 


Thank goodness we are going to have such a brilliant very stable genius businessman and savant negotiator in the White House! Otherwise it could get really dicey economically when we slap our three biggest trading partners across the face for no reason at all!
 
...but instead of sending money to the Sandinistas - we are restricting trade with our biggest trade partners in an effort to get them to solve our drug use problems.
 
ZenMode said:
I mean... Now you're just making stuff up. For all we know there could be dividends being paid to this day in the form of increased exports. Who knows.

I knew nothing about this deal until today, but it can't be "So the US got nothing. Nothing. Trump got duped" and then minutes later countries bought more for a couple of years and I'm a fool who got snookered. This does appear to be what I referenced earlier, which is you opposing basically anything he does or supports. Your sources seem sketchy in this case, also.
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Once again, we're in this weird situation where you admit to knowing nothing about the situation, but apparently enough to tell me I'm wrong even though I know about it and was the one who brought it up.

Let me make this simple for you. The. EU. Does. Not. Buy. LNG. It. Plays. No. Role.

www.politico.eu

EU’s opening bid to avoid Trump’s tariffs: We could buy more American gas

Brussels hopes to avoid trade war with the Republican president-elect.
www.politico.eu www.politico.eu

"During the first Trump term, Juncker avoided more tariffs by assuring the U.S. president that Europe would facilitate more imports of liquefied natural gas (and more American soybeans.) In fact, the European Commission has no real power in determining European companies' purchases of LNG and soybeans, but Trump was happy to accept the political theater of parading data that European purchases were going up."

"Laurent Ruseckas, executive director for gas markets at commodities giant S&P Global, said any such deal on fossil fuels was likely to be more about politics than energy.

“The EU doesn't buy LNG — there's a global LNG market and LNG buyers have/ their own contracts,” he said. “It's certainly possible to do a memorandum of understanding to talk about increasing purchases but ultimately in the past that's been a way to put a political wrapper around something that was delivered by the market. And the EU is buying as much LNG currently as the market needs.”

Is Laurent Ruseckas, executive director for gas markets at S&P Global, a "sketchy source"?

Don't you get tired of being humiliated when arguing with me? You think that I post shit I know nothing about, because that's what you do, but in fact I very rarely do anything like that.
 
The exclusions list will be practically unreadable it'll be so long. It'll be a 25% hike on Canadian maple Syrup and Mexican frijoles with exclusions for everything else. And Repubs will think it's great.
 
superrific said:
Once again, we're in this weird situation where you admit to knowing nothing about the situation, but apparently enough to tell me I'm wrong even though I know about it and was the one who brought it up.

Let me make this simple for you. The. EU. Does. Not. Buy. LNG. It. Plays. No. Role.

www.politico.eu

EU’s opening bid to avoid Trump’s tariffs: We could buy more American gas

Brussels hopes to avoid trade war with the Republican president-elect.
www.politico.eu www.politico.eu

"During the first Trump term, Juncker avoided more tariffs by assuring the U.S. president that Europe would facilitate more imports of liquefied natural gas (and more American soybeans.) In fact, the European Commission has no real power in determining European companies' purchases of LNG and soybeans, but Trump was happy to accept the political theater of parading data that European purchases were going up."

"Laurent Ruseckas, executive director for gas markets at commodities giant S&P Global, said any such deal on fossil fuels was likely to be more about politics than energy.

“The EU doesn't buy LNG — there's a global LNG market and LNG buyers have/ their own contracts,” he said. “It's certainly possible to do a memorandum of understanding to talk about increasing purchases but ultimately in the past that's been a way to put a political wrapper around something that was delivered by the market. And the EU is buying as much LNG currently as the market needs.”

Is Laurent Ruseckas, executive director for gas markets at S&P Global, a "sketchy source"?

Don't you get tired of being humiliated when arguing with me? You think that I post shit I know nothing about, because that's what you do, but in fact I very rarely do anything like that.
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Humiliated? You're the one who said "nothing" and when I provided a link showing a reported 181% increase, you changed your position from nothing to maybe an increase for couple years. That would mean his actions had an impact even if it wasn't directly with the EU.

As the Politico article says, a "memorandum of understanding" can be put out. Could that not be the cause of the reported 181% increase?
 
To all the Trump voters here who were claiming Trump would have TARGETED Tariffs (emphasis on “targeted” which is supposed to make them more palatable), are tariffs on everything from Canada, Mexico, and China “targeted?”
Is that what you were imagining, or is it more likely that you will claim that, yes, tariffs on anything and everything from those countries is what you meant by “targeted.”
 
Moving my posts off the first 100 days thread to here:

#1 export from Canada to US: crude oil. I assume Americans love paying more to put gas in their cars. Speaking of cars. #2 export. What's a 25% tariff on your Canadian built Ford?
 
altmin said:
Moving my posts off the first 100 days thread to here:

#1 export from Canada to US: crude oil. I assume Americans love paying more to put gas in their cars. Speaking of cars. #2 export. What's a 25% tariff on your Canadian built Ford?
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Now let's talk about who is the #1 importer of American goods? Yup, you guessed it - Sylvester Stallone... (obligatory Canadian reference)
Mexico and China are next up.

If you live in the real world, you know retaliatory tariffs are a thing. The Canadian dollar is already at a historically weak point against the American dollar thanks to the Biden recovery, which was not felt globally. If the Canadian buying ability is already below 70% of what it used to be and you tack on a 25% retaliatory price hike on top of that, Canadians might just start buying less American goods. The rest of the world makes a lot of stuff and we have two very nice ports in Halifax and Vancouver. Now, let's consider how that might effect the people who make the doodads and grow the whatnows that Canadians buy more than everyone else in the world from the US. Then add in the #2 and #3 consumer of American goods to the party.

It might not be prudent for the CEO of Doodad incorporated to make so many doodads this year, and why should he pay for all those Trump voters to make less doodads?

I hope the pain is real and there is someone who speaks clearly enough to get through the sugar high of "he lets me be the shitty person I aspire to be" to make it understood that you did this to yourself assholes.
 
ChileG said:
To all the Trump voters here who were claiming Trump would have TARGETED Tariffs (emphasis on “targeted” which is supposed to make them more palatable), are tariffs on everything from Canada, Mexico, and China “targeted?”
Is that what you were imagining, or is it more likely that you will claim that, yes, tariffs on anything and everything from those countries is what you meant by “targeted.”
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Canada and Mexico have 57 days to “comply” with Our Dear Leader’s demands to avoid these tariffs. They’ll both tighten their borders to avoid the tariffs. USA wins.
 
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