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"Just as Elon Musk is demonstrating how huge wealth can create enormous personal political power, Trump is demonstrating how enormous personal political power can create huge wealth."

 

Trump said "in the very near future" his administration will place tariffs on computer chips, semiconductors and pharmaceuticals "to return production of these essential goods to the United States of America."

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Just checking - people like paying more for things that keep them alive - like medicine, right?
 
Today, fired 12 career Justice Dept employees who helped prosecute him as part of the Special Counel's investigations. Can't get more retributive than that. Tearing down the rule of law step by step
 
I had a discussion with my not-too-bright cousin about the Colombian incident. He is one of the few who will actually have a real discussion with you though it is unlikely he will change his mind. (That is fine. At least we have real discussions.)

Some things he didn't know.

1. The objection of the Colombian president dealt with treatment of the deported immigrants.
2. The Colombian president objected about this before the agreement was made. (Cousin tried to claim that that was just a story he said after he "capitulated" but that can be disproven easily by looking up articles and times of statements.)
3. Flights have been going to Colombia regularly. This is not new. What was new was the way the immigrant passengers were treated.
4. These were not all violent criminals. (I actually don't know if they had all committed crimes or not. I suspect not.)
5. Colombian president knew about this ahead of time because of reports coming out of Brazil.
6. The agreement satisfies the main objection of the Colombian president. Who won? Who lost? I don't know. We could debate that but it is not debatable that the resolution satisfied the Colombian president's concerns.

Other than #4, these are all easily verifiable facts.

I didn't say this to my cousin, but if your opinion is formed without hearing about these facts, that should be a hint that your sources of news are not reliable.

I am not saying my sources are perfect and always give me all relevant facts. I just know in this instance, his sources excluded very relevant facts.
 
I do worry about what Trump and others will take away from this agreement with Colombia. Treating the deportees badly can result in the other country taking responsibility for the deportations.

I don't think that will work with Mexico. Notice Mexico refused flights but we haven't put tariffs on them. They have more leverage.
 
I was actually thinking maybe under Bill Clinton. I think he was the last president to balance the budget.
Hiring more IRS agents brought in even more tax revenue. Paid for itself and then some.
Investment in green energy.
Weapons to Ukraine.
Investment in infrastructure.
It’s not that hard to think of them. We could win a lot more if we wanted to.

But back to my original point - Trump is throwing away taxpayer money without any arguable benefit.
Other ventures may have its detractors, but almost all have some ostensible benefit to someone. Not this one.
 
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The White House budget office has ordered a pause in grants, loans and other federal financial assistance, according to a memo sent to government agencies on Monday, potentially paralyzing a vast swath of programs and sowing confusion and alarm among the array of groups that depend on them.

The directive threatened to upend funds that course throughout the American economy: Hundreds of billions of dollars in grants to state, local and tribal governments. Disaster relief aid. Education and transportation funding. Loans to small businesses.

But the two-page memo from Matthew J. Vaeth, the acting director of the Office of Management and Budget, left the scope of the pause, and much else, unclear.

Among the uncertainties was whether President Trump has the authority to unilaterally halt funds allocated by Congress. Senator Chuck Schumer of New York, the Democratic leader in the Senate, said in a statement that the memo “blatantly disobeys the law.”

“Congress approved these investments and they are not optional, they are the law,” Mr. Schumer said, adding that “Donald Trump must direct his administration to reverse course immediately and the taxpayers’ money should be distributed to the people.”
 
Holy shit, it just keeps getting worse. Not by the day, but by the hour.

Every time I check a news site, one more horrible directive straight from Project 2025 has been instituted.

This country is going to be fundamentally changed for the worse over the next four years, and I'm not sure how long it's going to take to recover, or if it's even possible.
 
Holy shit, it just keeps getting worse. Not by the day, but by the hour.

Every time I check a news site, one more horrible directive straight from Project 2025 has been instituted.

This country is going to be fundamentally changed for the worse over the next four years, and I'm not sure how long it's going to take to recover, or if it's even possible.

As I’ve been saying (and lots of other people too) if this is allowed to continue, this country will be unrecognizable in four years. It will take decades to recover from this mess. We (I’m 43) will likely not be around to see the other side.

Our democracy is dead.
 
Holy shit, it just keeps getting worse. Not by the day, but by the hour.

Every time I check a news site, one more horrible directive straight from Project 2025 has been instituted.

This country is going to be fundamentally changed for the worse over the next four years, and I'm not sure how long it's going to take to recover, or if it's even possible.
And yet we continue to have posters here vigorously arguing that none of this is that bad, and that we'll get through his second term just fine. But we're already conducting diplomacy via social media threats and freezing apparently every federal government program for "reviews" that might never happen, thus leaving them permanently defunded, which is likely the goal. Or, Project 2025 is being implemented before our very eyes - and yet some here refuse to see it.
 
Holy shit, it just keeps getting worse. Not by the day, but by the hour.

Every time I check a news site, one more horrible directive straight from Project 2025 has been instituted.

This country is going to be fundamentally changed for the worse over the next four years, and I'm not sure how long it's going to take to recover, or if it's even possible.
get ready to party like it's 1929

 
As I’ve been saying (and lots of other people too) if this is allowed to continue, this country will be unrecognizable in four years. It will take decades to recover from this mess. We (I’m 43) will likely not be around to see the other side.

Our democracy is dead.
but but but the price of eggs...
 

Justice Department Mass Fires Employees Involved in Prosecutions of Trump​




The Justice Department said Monday that it had fired more than a dozen employees who worked on criminal prosecutions of President Donald Trump, moving rapidly to pursue retribution against lawyers involved in the investigations and signaling an early willingness to take action favorable to the President’s personal interests.

The abrupt termination targeting career prosecutors who worked on special counsel Jack Smith’s team is the latest sign of upheaval inside the Justice Department and is consistent with the administration’s determination to purge the government of workers it perceives as disloyal to the President.

The norm-shattering move, which follows the reassignment of multiple senior career officials across divisions, was made even though rank-and-file prosecutors by tradition remain with the department across presidential administrations and are not punished by virtue of their involvement in sensitive investigations. The firings are effective immediately. …”
 
meanwhile I am going to move a good chunk of my cash in my American accounts to my Canadian and British ones...
 

The White House budget office has ordered a pause in grants, loans and other federal financial assistance, according to a memo sent to government agencies on Monday, potentially paralyzing a vast swath of programs and sowing confusion and alarm among the array of groups that depend on them.

The directive threatened to upend funds that course throughout the American economy: Hundreds of billions of dollars in grants to state, local and tribal governments. Disaster relief aid. Education and transportation funding. Loans to small businesses.

But the two-page memo from Matthew J. Vaeth, the acting director of the Office of Management and Budget, left the scope of the pause, and much else, unclear.

Among the uncertainties was whether President Trump has the authority to unilaterally halt funds allocated by Congress. Senator Chuck Schumer of New York, the Democratic leader in the Senate, said in a statement that the memo “blatantly disobeys the law.”

“Congress approved these investments and they are not optional, they are the law,” Mr. Schumer said, adding that “Donald Trump must direct his administration to reverse course immediately and the taxpayers’ money should be distributed to the people.”
 
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