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PandemicBlue said:
You just exposed yourself. Remember when those networks, the ones you believe tell you the truth, remember when they told you Donald Trump colluded with Russia, or when they told you Jussie Smollett was the victim, or the Hunter laptop was Russian disinformation, or Nick Sandmann was the aggressor, or border agents were whipping migrants, or when Alejandro Mayorkas told you the border was secure? Do you remember when CNN and MSNBC lied to you all those times? And now they are still the sources you will believe? Bo, come on now. Time to wake up.
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Where are your links about Bidenn"loosing " 300,000 kids
 
PandemicBlue said:
Why did Biden lose? If all of which you posted is actually true, what happened? Seems like America would have been chomping at the bit to re-elect a man capable of delivering everything you just stated. WHAT HAPPENED?
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What do you mean "if what you posted is actually true?" None of those were opinions, you dolt, they are very easily verifiable data that EVEN YOU have the ability to look up if you're so inclined. I'm not doing your work for you.

Why did Biden lose? Cause he was old and decrepit. Because he and his administration sucked at telling everyone what they accomplished. Because most Americans are low/no-information voters? Because every other incumbent administration in the world lost last year? You want me to keep going?

Anyway, why are you still sweating Sleepy Joe? He's gone! PANDEMICBLEW HAS BIDEN DERANGEMENT SYNDROME!!!!
 
CFordUNC said:
What do you mean "if what you posted is actually true?" None of those were opinions, you dolt, they are very easily verifiable data that EVEN YOU have the ability to look up if you're so inclined. I'm not doing your work for you.

Why did Biden lose? Cause he was old and decrepit. Because he and his administration sucked at telling everyone what they accomplished. Because most Americans are low/no-information voters? Because every other incumbent administration in the world lost last year? You want me to keep going?

PANDEMICBLEW HAS BIDEN DERANGEMENT SYNDROME!!!!
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Old? I thought everybody was saying they couldn't keep up with Biden behind the scenes? But then again they were all liars. They just needed a bunch of suckers to believe their bs. Are you not the least bit mad about being lied to? If you had to guess, who do you really believe was running the country the past 4 years? And if you say you believe Biden was, then I guess just go ahead a prove how gullible you truly are. Who do you think was running the country?
 
PandemicBlue said:
Old? I thought everybody was saying they couldn't keep up with Biden behind the scenes? But then again they were all liars. They just needed a bunch of suckers to believe their bs. Are you not the least bit mad about being lied to? If you had to guess, who do you really believe was running the country the past 4 years? And if you say you believe Biden was, then I guess just go ahead a prove how gullible you truly are. Who do you think was running the country?
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Keep up, dummy! It was the Deep State running the country! Duh.

Am I mad about being lied to? Fuck no. My net worth skyrocketed over the last 4 years. Lie to me more, daddy!
 
ChileG said:
Somebody has a very hard time staying on subject.
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CFordUNC said:
Keep up, dummy! It was the Deep State running the country! Duh.

Am I mad about being lied to? Fuck no. My net worth skyrocketed over the last 4 years. Lie to me more, daddy!
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Mine did too, just like it did under Trump as well as I'm sure yours did. But unlike you and I, many people live paycheck to paycheck. They are not fortunate enough to prosper off the stock market or make lucrative ROIs from other sources. They suffer when an economy with 1.4 percent inflation is handed off to someone who runs it up to 9.1. That is one of the reasons some poor people hate wealthy people. They know wealthy people get to live in a world insulated from a lot of the conditions the common man has to suffer though.
 
StrangePackage said:
Someone has absolutely no support for his nonsense.

It's PandemicBlue.
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mpaer said:
Well show us a credible link about the 300,000 being lost
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I just did a quick search with key words and this video popped up with sworn testimony. If you would like, take a listen and see if you find anything interesting. And if you feel that if even part of their testimony is accurate, what does that say about us as a nation?

 
PandemicBlue said:
Mine did too, just like it did under Trump as well as I'm sure yours did. But unlike you and I, many people live paycheck to paycheck. They are not fortunate enough to prosper off the stock market or make lucrative ROIs from other sources. They suffer when an economy with 1.4 percent inflation is handed off to someone who runs it up to 9.1. That is one of the reasons some poor people hate wealthy people. They know wealthy people get to live in a world insulated from a lot of the conditions the common man has to suffer though.
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I grew up in a poor family. We had SNAP at times when I was growing up. I've worked since I was 14 years old. I was a Pell Grant kid. As an adult, I've experienced what it's like to live paycheck to paycheck. I made somewhere between $0-$7.25 for the first three years after I graduated from college, working full-time jobs the entire time. There were many times I had to choose between putting gas in the tank to be able to get to work or food in my belly. I had health insurance only because of the ACA. So I've absolutely been exactly where you say the "common man" is.

Now, I make multiple six-figures myself, and once my spouse begins her first attending physician job later this year, I'll have a household income approaching three quarters of a million dollars. And yet, somehow, someway, instead of voting because I want my top marginal tax rate reduced, or because I want social safety nets slashed since I don't use them, or because I want poor people who pick my crops, cook my food, clean my house, etc. to quit being "lazy freeloaders" and/or get deported because they *might* be here without authorization, I vote because I want ALL Americans to have enough food, shelter, health insurance, childcare help, etc. I don't ever want people to have to choose between putting gas in their tanks or food on their table. I don't want people to suffer through illness and injury not being able to get treated or go to the doctor's office without it bankrupting them. I don't want people who work hard to build our houses, harvest our food, cook and clean in our homes and restaurants, etc. to get kicked out of the country if all they're doing is busting their ass to make a better life.

By contrast, I've got family members who who don't work, who draw disability, who draw veterans benefits, who get food from Meals on Wheels, who are on Medicaid, who subsist solely upon Social Security, who draw unemployment....and guess how they vote? Spoiler: they vote for the person and the party who openly campaigned on slashing, cutting, or reducing all of those social safety nets!

Tell me again about the common man?
 
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CFordUNC said:
I grew up in a poor family. We had SNAP at times when I was growing up. I've worked since I was 14 years old. I was a Pell Grant kid. As an adult, I've experienced what it's like to live paycheck to paycheck. I made somewhere between $0-$7.25 for the first three years after I graduated from college, working full-time jobs the entire time. There were many times I had to choose between putting gas in the tank to be able to get to work or food in my belly. I had health insurance only because of the ACA. So I've absolutely been exactly where you say the "common man" is.

Now, I make multiple six-figures myself, and once my spouse begins her first attending physician job later this year, I'll have a household income approaching three quarters of a million dollars. And yet, somehow, someway, instead of voting because I want my top marginal tax rate reduced, or because I want social safety nets slashed since I don't use them, or because I want poor people who pick my crops, cook my food, clean my house, etc. to quit being "lazy freeloaders" and/or get deported because they *might* be here without authorization, I vote because I want ALL Americans to have enough food, shelter, health insurance, childcare help, etc. I don't ever want people to have to choose between putting gas in their tanks or food on their table. I don't want people to suffer through illness and injury not being able to get treated or go to the doctor's office without it bankrupting them. I don't want people who work hard to build our houses, harvest our food, cook and clean in our homes and restaurants, etc. to get kicked out of the country if all they're doing is busting their ass to make a better life.

By contrast, I've got family members who who don't work, who draw disability, who draw veterans benefits, who get food from Meals on Wheels, who are on Medicaid, who subsist solely upon Social Security, who draw unemployment....and guess how they vote? Spoiler: they vote for the person and the party who openly campaigned on slashing, cutting, or reducing all of those social safety nets!

Tell me again about the common man?
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That's all great. Congratulations on your success. I understand what you "want", but is what you want for everybody actually achievable or is it a utopian desire in reality. We are 36 trillion in debt and have all the problems we currently have as a nation. And importing millions of additional poor people does what exactly to improve that situation?

And you claim that I suggested that the people who pick your crops or cook your food are the lazy freeloaders. No, they are some of the hardest working people I have ever seen. They are many times people who are strongly family oriented, believe in Christ and have conservative values. The lazy freeloaders are the ones who do no work of any kind, even though they could, but instead, live in a country where somebody allows them to not do any work but instead live off the American taxpayer. In what world is that reasonable?

And lastly, let's say you were a drug cartel leader, who wants to make money off human trafficking, pour drugs into the US, you want to rape and pillage poor migrants trying to make their way to the US, you want to take the billions you make and reign terror throughout the country in which you live and effectively turn it into a narco state....whose border policy do you think you would like best, Biden's or Trump's?
 
PandemicBlue said:
That's all great. Congratulations on your success. I understand what you "want", but is what you want for everybody actually achievable or is it a utopian desire in reality. We are 36 trillion in debt and have all the problems we currently have as a nation. And importing millions of additional poor people does what exactly to improve that situation?

And you claim that I suggested that the people who pick your crops or cook your food are the lazy freeloaders. No, they are some of the hardest working people I have ever seen. They are many times people who are strongly family oriented, believe in Christ and have conservative values. The lazy freeloaders are the ones who do no work of any kind, even though they could, but instead, live in a country where somebody allows them to not do any work but instead live off the American taxpayer. In what world is that reasonable?

And lastly, let's say you were a drug cartel leader, who wants to make money off human trafficking, pour drugs into the US, you want to rape and pillage poor migrants trying to make their way to the US, you want to take the billions you make and reign terror throughout the country in which you live and effectively turn it into a narco state....whose border policy do you think you would like best, Biden's or Trump's?
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What I "want" is for every hard-working person in our country- the wealthiest and most prosperous country in the history of the universe- to have basic access to shelter, food, clothing, healthcare, medicine. What I "want" is for every hard-working person in our country to not have to struggle so mightily to make ends meet on low or minimum wage while the Chief Executive of their company buys a third yacht, a second private jet, and a fifth vacation mansion. What I "want" is for us to have strong, secure, well-enforced borders that protect us while simultaneously having a robust, efficient system of legal immigration that enables people from all over the world to come to the United States, work hard, pay taxes, contribute to our economic success, and make their own lives- and ours- better.

Why is any of that some unachievable utopian fantasy? I'm always so amazed that the same people who believe that America is the greatest country that ever country'd in the history of countries, somehow immediately lose faith in American exceptionalism the moment we start discussing things like....making sure people don't go hungry, making sure that people who want to live here and work hard have the ability to do so, etc.
 
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