U.S. Budget & OBBB | OCT 1 - Gov’t Shutdown Begins

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Hand out $2000 dollar bills to the middle and low income masses.
We will gladly eat the cake and marvel at the new golden ballroom and all will be forgotten and forgiven.
I don’t think $5 bread and $5 for a carton of eggs is too much considering I’m not paying $3 for a gallon of gas.
 
superrific said:
The left is being ridiculous. In March: "Schumer is a pussy. He's blown our leverage." Then he uses the leverage and people are complaining about the fight.

There was zero chance that this could turn out differently once Trump dug in. Because he enjoys hurting people and Dems do not. It's like doing an S&M roleplay with Jeffrey Dahmer. But making Trump broadcast to the world that he's a sociopath can't hurt. Eventually, maybe, some of his base will begin to suspect that maybe he isn't one of them after all
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One of my favorite Dana Carrey jokes:
A mom and dad found an S&M magazine under their 10-year-old son's bed, and the dad said, 'Well, we sure can't spank him.'

Sort of like trying to shame or appeal to a mentally ill narcissistic psychopath like Drumph!?! He has no feelings friends or empathy.

Loved the photo of what your cat does when you are having a seizure!
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SnoopRob said:
Again, the point is that the suffering inflicted on Americans didn't justify the gains won.

It's not "How long should this have been allowed to continue?", it's "If this was the best achievable outcome, it should have never been done to start with."
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Trump deliberately cut SNAP benefits. The SOB is still in court fighting AGAINST the working class. Let Trump keep defying the courts. Trump was also freaking out because they got their @$$ handed to them.

The people went out and voted last Tuesday and they voice declared "Keep fighting for us! Don't cave."

Schumer caved because corporate health care donors funds the Dem caucus. They "selected" 8 patsies to vote who weren't up for re-election until 2028 or 2030. There are no coincidences here.

Wake up! The Dems did not cave for the people, but for PROFIT and to save their own @$$es. They met on Thursday - this was pre-planned.

So, Schumer allows the Dems to play the LOSING end of Lucy and the football again.

Dems and the people are getting almost nothing of value. The people are screwed.
 
Duke Mu said:
Trump deliberately cut SNAP benefits. The SOB is still in court fighting AGAINST the working class. Let Trump keep defying the courts. Trump was also freaking out because they got their @$$ handed to them.

The people went out and voted last Tuesday and they voice declared "Keep fighting for us! Don't cave."

Schumer caved because corporate health care donors funds the Dem caucus. They "selected" 8 patsies to vote who weren't up for re-election until 2028 or 2030. There are no coincidences here.

Wake up! The Dems did not cave for the people, but for PROFIT and to save their own @$$es. They met on Thursday - this was pre-planned.

So, Schumer allows the Dems to play the LOSING end of Lucy and the football again.

Dems and the people are getting almost nothing of value. The people are screwed.
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Do you really think that GOP was going to cave?
 
aGDevil2k said:
Then the issue of health care would never be discussed like now. And Trump's hatred of snap wouldn't be in the news
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and now it will fall out of the news cycle.

And don't think that the Dems aren't playing good cop, bad cop. At least in the Senate. I do think that some of the House Dems are actually p*ssed.
 
aGDevil2k said:
Do you really think that GOP was going to cave?
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On the Senate side - yes, there could have been an agreement. There were cracks in Thune. Even Trump was mumbling that Dems kicked their @$$.

Now the Dems have nothing.

Except PROFIT. The Dems health care donors are happy (Kaine receive $800K). This was a set-up. The entire caucus knew on Thursday night. Not only did Dem leadership provide a stamp of approval, but they chose the patsies!

Washington is more corrupt than at any time since the early 70s. Probably considerably more more because of Trumpistania, Citizens United, and K-Street.
 
superrific said:
The left is being ridiculous. In March: "Schumer is a pussy. He's blown our leverage." Then he uses the leverage and people are complaining about the fight.

There was zero chance that this could turn out differently once Trump dug in. Because he enjoys hurting people and Dems do not. It's like doing an S&M roleplay with Jeffrey Dahmer. But making Trump broadcast to the world that he's a sociopath can't hurt. Eventually, maybe, some of his base will begin to suspect that maybe he isn't one of them after all
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No. It's far worse. They blew their leverage for PROFIT.
 
Duke Mu said:
and now it will fall out of the news cycle.

And don't think that the Dems aren't playing good cop, bad cop. At least in the Senate. I do think that some of the House Dems are actually p*ssed.
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LMAO you clearly aren't on the ACA. People are pissed. And the GOP isn't going to solve it.. So it's going to stay in the news
 
aGDevil2k said:
LMAO you clearly aren't on the ACA. People are pissed. And the GOP isn't going to solve it.. So it's going to stay in the news
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You've COMPLETELY missed the point. Sure, the PEOPLE are pissed. But it's crocodile tears for many of the Senate caucas. Their corporate donors called.

No...wait, you thought the Dem. Senate caucus was actually fighting for The People? 🤣 'Fraid not.

As I stated before. I believe AOC is p*ssed. A lot of the Dem. House believed this wasn't a charade. Bernie is probably p*ssed because it didn't involve his corporate gun makers.
 
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aGDevil2k said:
LMAO you clearly aren't on the ACA. People are pissed. And the GOP isn't going to solve it.. So it's going to stay in the news.
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Ummm...the billionaires and corporations being extorted by Trump own the news. We'll be lucky if the Epstein Files remains. Dems are awful at messaging - who is going to listen?

Just when the Affordability messaging gained some tractions. As an example, when I see "perfection" in some data, I immediately look for artifact or something creating a systematic bias.

This scam was OBVIOUS because the Dems trotted out exactly 8 PATSIES who were not up for re-election. What are the odds? Especially, since the entire caucus was in on it without leaking since last Thursday. The Bullsh*t Meter couldn't be any higher.
 
wmheel1287 said:
Hard disagree. Another year of atrocity...yes. Will that lead to Dem turnout or enthusiasm? Nope. Because people know Dems ain't shit when it comes to fighting for them. Ever.
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It is 8 democrats who voted yes. All the people running in 2026 will say they supported the shutdown and they were angry at the Republicans and 8 democrats.
 
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