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finesse said:
No it doesn't. There are selfish motives possible which makes them much more probable. Political posturing, beating up on the weak, liking to watch people suffer are all more likely motives than doing good. Going with something we know he does instead of stuff we've only seen him talk about is much smarter. Guess that explains the sides we chose.
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Clearly you and many other will assume the selfish motives are not just probable, but reality. That's fine. The question was asked, I answered with objective actions by Trump. I can't help your subjective view of my objective examples.
 
ZenMode said:
Clearly you and many other will assume the selfish motives are not just probable, but reality. That's fine. The question was asked, I answered with objective actions by Trump. I can't help your subjective view of my objective examples.
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No. I object to the motive you gave. You claimed he did it because he cared. There's no proof that he's ever cared about anybody or anything but himself, with the possible exception of his family. Even that is primarily as an extension of his ego and a pretense to virility.
 
Icky Mettle said:
I’ve posted this before, but I’ll post it again here. The people who transport drugs are generally at the very low end of totem pole in the whole drug trade. Many, if not most, of them are coerced into these jobs. They and their families are threatened with violence and death if they do not follow orders. Many times, they are tortured or forced to watch someone they love being tortured as a scare tactic. They get virtually nothing in return. The people sending them to do these jobs see them as expendable. Many of them are teenagers. Many are old men.

Of course we haven’t yet been shown any evidence that the boats that we’re blowing up are trafficking drugs. But if they are, these are the people being killed and these are the people that Megyn Kelly wants to see suffering.
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Yep, when I was in the Navy, our Frigate stopped a trawler off the coast to Panama in the Pacific. They had over $200 million worth of cocaine. We took them back to Panama, and flew them to Texas for processing. Never seen anybody so happy to get on a plane.
 
uncmba said:
Yep, when I was in the Navy, our Frigate stopped a trawler off the coast to Panama in the Pacific. They had over $200 million worth of cocaine. We took them back to Panama, and flew them to Texas for processing. Never seen anybody so happy to get on a plane.
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That's because they knew Joe Biden wouldn't prosecute them and would give them citizenship with his autopen.
 
ZenMode said:
Besides being very vocal about the issue of drugs entering the US for a decade....
He's destroying drug boats.
He leveraged tariffs, via Executive Order, to force Canada and Mexico to put more attention on stopping drugs crossing the border.
He's threatening military action against Mexico and Valenzuela drug cartel locations.
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Fernando had a drug cartel? That is disappointing,
 
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