Ukraine War | Russia launches (I)CBM (not nuke) at Ukraine?

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Can't find a thread on the new boards about this conflict, so started one. Delete if warranted.

In Pivnichnoe (former Kirovo) Russian forces have most of the buildings. There's still some mopping up to go, but the assault on Toretsk proper is probably about to begin.

Ukrainian defenses around Toretsk are crumbling. It looks like Ukrainian forces inside Novogorodskoe are at threat of encirclement as Russian troops pushed through and took the hill in the west, that has the school on it. Ukrainian forces are withdrawing from the positions along the old front line east of Novogorodskoe.

At the same time, UA has launched a cross-border attack into Kursk region. The scale is only btln strength, but might relieve some pressure. Regardless, the UA is running low on both men and material.
 
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They took delivery of the F-16s. Wonder what difference, if any, those might make.
 
Yeah, it was called Putin invades Ukraine or something like that, but didn't get a lot of traction, so no reason not to start a new one.
 


Anyway, so far the F-16s seem to be more about the initial burst of propaganda. I do recall that Russia was trying to preemptively damage the airfields they were most likely to be able to use.
 
Anyway, lots of reports of extensive action inside Ukraine fronts today, but still too garbled to know for sure what is going on.

 
On PackPride (ewww) their Brickyard (like our old ZZLP and ZZL combined), there exists an excellent ongoing thread pinned at the top about the Ukraine war.

I know, its PP. Just stick to the Brickyard and that thread, lots of excellent information on a daily basis. There are a lot military people on there who know their stuff.
 
nycfan said:


Anyway, so far the F-16s seem to be more about the initial burst of propaganda. I do recall that Russia was trying to preemptively damage the airfields they were most likely to be able to use.
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What they need is integrated air defense with the ability to strike targets in Russia that originate attacks. That and about 800,000 more 155.
 
Kingpin said:
On PackPride (ewww) their Brickyard (like our old ZZLP and ZZL combined), there exists an excellent ongoing thread pinned at the top about the Ukraine war.

I know, its PP. Just stick to the Brickyard and that thread, lots of excellent information on a daily basis. There are a lot military people on there who know their stuff.
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Good thread there on PP. Battboy was banned there for criticizing Michael Mackay (still think he might be a Russian plant) so I have to post under one of my aliases.
 
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The assault, which began on Tuesday into the Kursk region of western Russia, appeared to have resulted in heavy fighting, according to images from the battlefield verified by independent military analysts and Russian statements. Russia’s defense ministry said midday on Wednesday that the fighting was continuing.

Videos verified by The New York Times showed armored vehicles being struck several miles inside Russia, and Moscow said it had rushed troops and fighter jets to respond. Russia’s defense ministry said its forces had “prevented the enemy from advancing deep into the territory of the Russian territory,” while pro-Kremlin military bloggers said Ukrainian forces had captured several settlements near the border.

The various reports could not be independently verified, and the Ukrainian authorities have not commented on the assault. Two spokesmen for the Ukrainian army did not immediately respond to requests for comment. …”
 
Russia continues to collapse the Rabotino salient. Looks like UA is using Shadows in Kursk.
 
I assume the ground incursions was a Doolittle raidesque propaganda move?
 
nycfan said:
Yeah, it was called Putin invades Ukraine or something like that, but didn't get a lot of traction, so no reason not to start a new one.
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Funny. I had thought Putin's invasion of Ukraine had gained traction. In fact, I think that's pretty much all it gained, right?
 
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The Battle of Kursk 2024

A quick assessment of what we know about the surprise Ukrainian assault into Russia, and what might be Ukraine’s strategic and operational objectives.
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The Battle of Kursk 2024​

A quick assessment of what we know about the surprise Ukrainian assault into Russia, and what might be Ukraine’s strategic and operational objectives.​

 

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The incursion, which was filmed on videos posted online and reported by Russian officials and military analysts, prompted the local governor to declare a state of emergency. On Wednesday President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia convened with top military and security officials to strategize about the attack.

The surprising assault appears to represent an effort by Ukraine to turn the tables on Moscow by pushing into its territory. In May, Russia caught Ukraine off guard when it sent troops across the border in the area north of Kharkiv, where it still has a narrow foothold.

Ukraine has remained mostly silent about the attack, which began on Tuesday. The Ukrainian military has not acknowledged its troops are in Russia.

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Analysts and Russian military bloggers have said the Ukrainian push involves regular Army units. That would be a change from the previous incursions, which were carried out by armed groups of Russian exiles backed by Kyiv’s army.

The fighting was intensive enough for the acting governor of the Kursk region in Russia, Aleksei Smirnov, to declare a state of emergency late Wednesday in order to “liquidate the results of an incursion into the region’s territory by enemy forces.”

“Difficult conditions for operations persist” in the border region, Mr. Smirnov said in a statement posted on the Telegram messaging app, without specifying where or how intensively the fighting continued. …”
 
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