UNC Basketball Possible coaches - UNC hires ex-Nuggets HC Michael Malone

Zoo_View said:
Donovan is 60; 61 at the end of May.

Mark Few is 63.

Both look fit AND “ridden hard and put up wet.”

Unless we’re desperate, hard no on both……unless you want to be back here in 3-5 years.
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Well, we did hire Belichick and Mack Brown before him, so we seem to have a thing for aging/older coaches recently. Hopefully none of them have a sugar baby girlfriend.
 
Zoo_View said:
Donovan is 60; 61 at the end of May.

Mark Few is 63.

Both look fit AND “ridden hard and put up wet.”

Unless we’re desperate, hard no on both……unless you want to be back here in 3-5 years.
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It would be closer to ten years with Donovan. I think he's got a good decade left in him.

But, let's just get Brad Stevens and not worry about it.
 
Sherrell mentioned that this hire is all about getting the best coach, and so we’re going to see exactly how Carolina basketball is viewed now by the basketball world. It’s going to be interesting to see if we’re still considered the top destination.
 
Mulberry Heel said:
Stevens seems to be the top target, but I remain dubious that he'll actually leave his current job. If he doesn't, then TJ or Lloyd would be my Top 2 choices. My least preferred would be Golden or Oats or Few, for various reasons.
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I do wonder about Stevens being out of college basketball for 10+ years… if you can get a Tommy Lloyd or TJO - someone who’s actively killing it in the current college basketball landscape, maybe that’s the move. Same goes for Donovan.
 
LeoBloom said:
According to IC the top tier list is:

Lloyd
May
TJ
Stevens

Tier2
Byington
Donovan
Few
McCasland
McCollum
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Donovan is Tier 1...can't say I love guy in his 60s. Don't really see Few as a realistic target.
Otherwise that's a solid list. Saw that Michael Malone has a house in Chapel Hill...hell of a good coach...I'd bring him in for a cup of coffee even though I prefer a guy with recent college experience.

I really hope we don't hire an asshole.
 
Gmonet said:
McCollum is the right coach. His track record is incredible. Sticking with the 'name' shit got Belichick.
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He just finished his 1st year at Iowa as a P4 conference coach. He finished the season 23-12 in 9th place with a 10-10 conference record ?

I don't think fans would be happy with him as a great hire to replace CHD
 
CRHeel94 said:
Donovan is Tier 1...can't say I love guy in his 60s. Don't really see Few as a realistic target.
Otherwise that's a solid list. Saw that Michael Malone has a house in Chapel Hill...hell of a good coach...I'd bring him in for a cup of coffee even though I prefer a guy with recent college experience.

I really hope we don't hire an asshole.
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Michael Malone had a mediocre record in the NBA and was fired last year. I don't think fans would be happy with him as a great hire to replace CHD
 
I will repost my comments from the HD thread:

TJ Otzelberger has been head coach at Iowa State for five years. They won 2 games total the year before he became head coach. In his five years they have been to the NCAA tournament each year with progressively 11-6-2-3-2 seeds in the tourney. They have lost once (2023) in the first round. I heard Bobby Lutz on Charlotte sportstalk radio today say Iowa State has $8.5 million in NIL funds for their men's basketball program to recruit players to Ames, IA.

ETA: if that $8.5 million player budget at Iowa St is true, that is about half of what HD reportedly had to work with at UNC, and selling Chapel Hill and the Triangle has to be a good bit easier than convincing people to come to Ames, Iowa.
 
farce© said:
I will repost my comments from the HD thread:

TJ Otzelberger has been head coach at Iowa State for five years. They won 2 games total the year before he became head coach. In his five years they have been to the NCAA tournament each year with progressively 11-6-2-3-2 seeds in the tourney. They have lost once (2023) in the first round. I heard Bobby Lutz on Charlotte sportstalk radio today say Iowa State has $8.5 million in NIL funds for their men's basketball program to recruit players to Ames, IA.

ETA: if that $8.5 million player budget at Iowa St is true, that is about half of what HD reportedly had to work with at UNC, and selling Chapel Hill and the Triangle has to be a good bit easier than convincing people to come to Ames, Iowa.
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I agree for sure but there's also guys like Matt Campbell who are just culturally Midwestern and want to stay there and build instead of chase the blueblood spotlight. I've read some stuff about Otzelberger that makes me think he's cut from a similar cloth. Time will tell.
 
I personally think it's extraordinarily unlikely that we'd land either Brad Stevens or Billy Donovan, but if we were to do so, that is just such an unfathomably incredible hire it's difficult to even put it into words. Two guys with multiple national championship game pedigrees at the collegiate level (BD won two back to back, BS appeared in two back to back), two guys with great experience coaching at two of the most premier NBA franchises, two guys who would basically get a blank check from the donors. It's just really, really hard to see either of them actually wanting the job. You obviously have to make them say 'no' either way. But these two are "bottom of the 9th, Game 7 of the World Series, trailing by 3 runs, with 2 outs, and a 3-2 pitch, walk-off grand slam" type hires, IMO.

After that, I think Tommy Lloyd and Dusty May are the next two home run type hires. Both have phenomenal coaching chops at the collegiate level, both lead major programs and are used to the limelight, and both have demonstrated a propensity for thriving in the current NIL, transfer portal intensive roster building environment. Personally, I don't think either of them would necessarily find UNC's basketball program to currently be a better job than the one that they each have. Obvsiously, historically it's not even close- UNC is far and away the better program- but in this day and age the national title banners and the retired jerseys hanging in the rafters of the Smith Center aren't doing any heavy lifting other than being nostalgia for fans. It is exclusively about money- your program either has enough or it doesn't. In that sense, UNC is not heads and shoulders above Arizona and Michigan, and may not even be ahead of either at all.

I think after that, and assuming it's true that none of Nate Oats, Todd Golden, or Fred Hoiberg are going to be candidates, I think that guys like TJ Otzelberger and Mark Byington are the most *realistic*. I'd be mostly pleased with TJO and ever so slightly underwhelmed with Byington, but would feel like UNC has at least landed good, solid hires with definite upside but also definite potential pitfalls.
 
akillesheel said:
Donovan is the Belichick hire. Not quite as old, but somebody who would be hired on the strength of his resume from 15+ years ago while his recent work has been no better than mediocre, and also who has no experience with the contemporary college game. Hard pass imo.
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Totally fair and valid points, IMO.
 
akillesheel said:
Donovan is the Belichick hire. Not quite as old, but somebody who would be hired on the strength of his resume from 15+ years ago while his recent work has been no better than mediocre, and also who has no experience with the contemporary college game. Hard pass imo.
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I'm don't see that as a clean comparison. Donovan has coached CBB and he's currently employed.
 
Weren't all of the ########INSIDERS on Inside Carolina telling us that Brad Stevens had tons of interest in the UNC job? Seems a little odd for him to emphatically remove his name from consideration 12 hours into our coaching opening!
 
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