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superrific said:
You don't have any comprehension of this issue, do you? You're so blinded by racism that you refuse to see what happened here, which is that Trump sent a man to a gulag for no reason, despite a binding legal order preventing such a thing. He broke the law, in many different ways, in order to imprison someone with no due process.

Please explain how you think this plays out if Trump gets away this. He's said he wants to do the same thing to US citizens. You OK with that? Or do I need to show you some imagines of different skin tones to help your opinion-making process?
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superrific said:
So then what should Dems do? Answer the question posed above. What do you think happens next if Dems are like, "eh, what can we do? Brutal campaign ads and all that."? Trump will be like, "cool, now I'll just relax for 3.5 years"? Because I think what will happen if Dems relent is that there will be more flights, with more innocent or undeserving people hauled off to a hole in the ground where they will never see the light of day. I think what would happen is that disappearing people would become the norm.
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Don’t focus on it. Fight winning battles.
 
nycfan said:
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That's not only increasingly the Trump Administration's final defense of any of their actions - "Americans voted for this" or "we're just doing what the voters elected us to do" - but it's also the go-to defense of his supporters on this board and elsewhere. And the truth is in many ways they're right - this is what the great majority of his nearly 78 million voters thought they wanted - causing chaos, shaking things up, burning down the system, hurting people they don't like, etc. However, it has certainly been interesting reading the growing number of stories from Trumpers who have lost their jobs or their businesses are suffering thanks to Dear Leader's actions claiming that "this isn't what I voted for!" As to the legality and ethics and morals of what they're doing, that's obviously a very different matter.
 
Mulberry Heel said:
That's not only increasingly the Trump Administration's final defense of any of their actions - "Americans voted for this" or "we're just doing what the voters elected us to do" - but it's also the go-to defense of his supporters on this board and elsewhere. And the truth is in many ways they're right - this is what the great majority of his nearly 78 million voters thought they wanted - causing chaos, shaking things up, burning down the system, hurting people they don't like, etc. However, it has certainly been interesting reading the growing number of stories from Trumpers who have lost their jobs or their businesses are suffering thanks to Dear Leader's actions claiming that "this isn't what I voted for!" As to the legality and ethics and morals of what they're doing, that's obviously a very different matter.
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Yet, recent polling suggested only 2% of them regret their vote, iirc. I think the anecdotes have a high attention grab quotient, while the reality remains that maga is a cult, and cults typically only break when the godhead falls.
 
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This was a topic on Fox and Friends this morning. Not that this picture was obviously photoshopped and poorly, but that they were having margaritas together.

Couldn’t hear since it was at the gym but seeing all of the headlines they ran through, I can see where some of our loonier pubs/MAGA get their talking points. Thought their source would one of the farther right media outlets. Nope, Fox is all in on the crazy talk.
 
I wonder if HintonJamesHeel will think it's unwise for Democrats to push back next week when the Insurrection Act is invoked...

Imagine the ads! I bet an upside down bible will be featured...
 
rodoheel said:
I didnt take from that at all that Judge Wilkinson is giving the administration the benefit of the doubt and crediting what they say. Thats the closest I’ve ever seen a federal appellate judge come to saying that the sitting executive is a lawless tyrant. As you essentially acknowledge, actually saying Trump is a lawless tyrant would just be counterproductive in this context. If people perceive the courts as biased and/or overreaching it will make it easier for Trump to further degrade and disregard them.
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I mean, that closing is kind of ridiculous, right? But as I said, I know why he wrote it. It's not a criticism of Wilkinson that what would otherwise be a perfectly anodyne statement is actually patent unrealism. It's a criticism of the WH adminstration.
 
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