USA Military leadership

[CeruleanBlueHeel]

These men and women supposedly take an oath to the Constitution and not to any POTUS. How long before they demonstrate their oath and put an end to this administration?

 

[Kingpin]

Or my fear is the opposite. They are asked to swear loyalty to Dear Leader or be replaced and move down the line until Dear Leader find those who say yes.

 

[1moretimeagain]

These men and women supposedly take an oath to the Constitution and not to any POTUS. How long before they demonstrate their oath and put an end to this administration?

Don’t hold your breath

 

[donbosco]

If they choose a chief executive over The Constitution then we will be a full-blown "Banana Republic."

 

[BlueSteel]

I've long found it baffling how anyone could look at the way Trump has treated our servicemen and women, and especially our veterans, over the years and not vote blue. Same goes for law enforcement. I just have to smdh anytime I see a MAGA bumper sticker next to a Back the Blue one. I guess you have to be in a cult or something for that to make sense.

 

[superrific]

These men and women supposedly take an oath to the Constitution and not to any POTUS. How long before they demonstrate their oath and put an end to this administration?

Their oaths are not yet implicated. We don't want rank and file military to be deciding or acting on issues of constitutional law. They need to not follow illegal orders. They need to not facilitate a coup.

What your second sentence implies is a military coup.

 

[mpaer]

I of course have nothing but respect for what the Military "sign up for"
But there is lot of self selection that folks that want to do this have some narrow minded views of Govt
I don't know-kind of like ole school Tar Pit folks who think football is most important reason for UNC to exist

 

[donbosco]

An ironclad draft is more "democratic."

 

[CeruleanBlueHeel]

Their oaths are not yet implicated. We don't want rank and file military to be deciding or acting on issues of constitutional law. They need to not follow illegal orders. They need to not facilitate a coup.

What your second sentence implies is a military coup.

But the courts, Congress, and the military are doing exactly this now in the form of a slow moving coup, or do you not agree?

 

[superrific]

But the courts, Congress, and the military are doing exactly this now in the form of a slow moving coup, or do you not agree?

I promise you that we do not want the military deciding that.

 

[CeruleanBlueHeel]

I promise you that we do not want the military deciding that.

I have more faith in our military leaders than I do in *anyone* in the Trump administration. A provisional government can be assembled quickly, or now for that matter, and power transferred. We a full-fledged one-party authoritarian wannbe dictator now and it needs to be put down.

 

[WaynetheDrain]

These men and women supposedly take an oath to the Constitution and not to any POTUS. How long before they demonstrate their oath and put an end to this administration?

Don’t hold your breath. General Mark Milley ain’t walking through that door to protect us.

 

[mpaer]

I have more faith in our military leaders than I do in *anyone* in the Trump administration. A provisional government can be assembled quickly, or now for that matter, and power transferred. We a full-fledged one-party authoritarian wannbe dictator now and it needs to be put down.

Historically I do also
He has fired something like 15 top Military Sr folks So i am getting scared-er

 

[superrific]

I have more faith in our military leaders than I do in *anyone* in the Trump administration. A provisional government can be assembled quickly, or now for that matter, and power transferred. We a full-fledged one-party authoritarian wannbe dictator now and it needs to be put down.

I can't think of any military coup that ended well for the country. I understand and appreciate your point. It's not wrong. But the military coup has to be the very last option. That's almost impossible to come back from.

 

[gtyellowjacket]

I have more faith in our military leaders than I do in *anyone* in the Trump administration. A provisional government can be assembled quickly, or now for that matter, and power transferred. We a full-fledged one-party authoritarian wannbe dictator now and it needs to be put down.

Most military coups end pretty badly for the country and lead to cycles of instability and economic contraction. There are obviously a few exceptions like Portugal which is about the best case scenario for a quick junta and South Korea which is about the best case scenario for a long, prosperous but corrupt and repressive junta.

Democratic elections have a much better record of successful regime change that doesn't turn into a bloodbath and a spiraling disaster. We should probably try that first before going with the coup option.