2024 Presidential Election | ELECTION DAY 2024

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Thank you for pointing out the 15% discount code, as it saved me a decent amount of money. I had the same reaction as John C Reilly when I saw it was a 15% savings being offered.
 
CFordUNC said:
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I've always thought the polls showing Nevada and Arizona going comfortably for Trump would not hold up, and now that Kamala is the candidate it appears that Democrats are now running much stronger in those two states. Nevada is for Republicans what NC is for Democrats - they always come close to winning, but never seem to get over the top. I still think Harris will carry the state in the end by a small margin. And in Arizona the state GOP is a dumpster fire, and Kari Lake will likely drag down the entire GOP ticket in November. No one can be sure about those two states of course, but Democrats have a much better chance of carrying both than the polls or pundits have wanted to admit to this point, imo.
 

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“Crazy Kamala,” he fumed a minute into his speech. “She was here a week ago — lots of empty seats — but the crowd she got was because she had entertainers.”

Four days earlier, Vice President Kamala Harris had packed about the same number of people (10,000) into the arena, the Georgia State University Convocation Center. It was the first major rally of her newborn campaign, and she had two rappers (Quavo and Megan Thee Stallion) on hand to hype up her crowd.

Mr. Trump, who has been shunned by much of the entertainment industry, spun this as somehow cheating in the all-important competition over crowd size.

“I don't need entertainers,” he said on Saturday. “I fill the stadium because I’m making America great again.”

… The crowds he has drawn to his rallies this campaign season have been as big as ever. Whether in blistering heat or deep freeze, his supporters line up for hours beforehand to see him. Mr. Trump’s previous two rivals, Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden, could never competewith him on this front. What will it mean if his new challenger can?

… Still, Mr. Trump couldn’t help but focus on those who weren’t piling in. He claimed that Georgia State University officials in charge of the arena prevented him from letting in more people. “We have beautiful cameras set up for the overflow crowds,” he said. A massive screen flashed to a live video feed of his red-capped supporters milling around outside in the 90-degree heat.

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In Mr. Trump’s telling, this wasn’t a safety protocol but a conspiracy to humiliate him, perpetrated by the university and other nefarious forces. It all connects, in his estimation, to the biggest numbers game he has ever lost. “If they’re going to stand in the way of admitting people to our rally, just imagine what they’re going to do on Election Day,” he said.

This goes to the core of Mr. Trump’s crowd-size fixation. He seems to believe that a full arena is a predictor of his ultimate victory — as if the voters in that arena were representative of the country at large. …”
 
CFordUNC said:
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I know nothing about Shaprio, Walz, or Kelly really other than what I've heard in the last week (Kelly less so due to his previous election being bigger news) but that's kind of why I want her to select Walz. I'm not saying Shapiro or Kelly are inauthentic but Walz really seems like an endearing figure to the average voter. Not that that really matters but you know..
 
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“… Thirty minutes into his speech, he became distracted again by the seating: “There’s some seats right up there — they could let them come in.”

He complained about the venue to Representative Marjorie Taylor-Greene, Republican of Georgia, who was sitting in the front row: “It’s obviously, Marjorie, a very liberal school, I guess, right? I’m not happy with the school.” He claimed that “they don’t want to show that we’re successful.”

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And then he was back, once again, on Ms. Harris and her crowd size. “She has to go get entertainers,” he repeated. “They start leaving as soon as she opens her mouth.”

This seemed like pure projection. If Mr. Trump had looked up from his teleprompter at any point during the second half of his 90-minute speech, he would have seen his own supporters slipping out of their bright blue seats, headed for the exits. Slowly but surely, across every stand and in every section, they streamed out. Stage left, a man in a star-spangled cowboy hat sidled down his row at the halfway mark. Two men holding signs bearing Mr. Trump’s mugshot tiptoed up their aisle a minute later. A young woman led her family away just as Mr. Trump started to falsely tell them that “Kamala Harris let in the savage monster who murdered Laken Riley.”

This happens at every rally, to a degree. And it is more a factor of the time commitment involved than any sort of discontent with his message. Supporters show up, get their photos for Facebook of the man in the arena and, at some point during his discursive stemwinders, decide that they’ve heard enough and that it’s time to go eat.

Still, an hour into his speech, the Atlanta crowd had emptied out more than usual. (Like Madonna, he often keeps his crowds waiting for an hour or more past the scheduled start time, which doesn’t help the situation.) Large splotches of blue had blossomed across the upper stands, and people on the floor had started to sneak away, too.

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But there was something about Ms. Harris’s star turn at the same arena that had unsettled Mr. Trump. He seemed to be pining for the glory days of his first campaign, back when his rollicking rallies were but a harbinger of a stunning victory to come. He said that seeing two rappers open for Ms. Harris reminded him of how Mrs. Clinton used musicians to help summon the kinds of crowds he could command with ease.

“She got the idea from Hillary,” he told his supporters. “Hillary got Bruce Springsteen, I’ll never forget, and the place was pretty full.”

“Not full like our places are full,” he quickly added. “I don’t have a guitar. But our places are bigger — we get more people than anybody. I don’t care how many guitars they have.” …”
 
Rock said:
I know nothing about Shaprio, Walz, or Kelly really other than what I've heard in the last week (Kelly less so due to his previous election being bigger news) but that's kind of why I want her to select Walz. I'm not saying Shapiro or Kelly are inauthentic but Walz really seems like an endearing figure to the average voter. Not that that really matters but you know..
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I always laugh at this sort of thing. No, American voters are not actually good at smelling inauthenticity. Sometimes they get it right, and that's when the "voters can sense it" comes out, but for people who are supposedly so good at sniffing out the fake, they certainly seem to elect fakes and get behind the fakes quite often.
 
superrific said:
I always laugh at this sort of thing. No, American voters are not actually good at smelling inauthenticity. Sometimes they get it right, and that's when the "voters can sense it" comes out, but for people who are supposedly so good at sniffing out the fake, they certainly seem to elect fakes and get behind the fakes quite often.
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Mulberry Heel said:
I've always thought the polls showing Nevada and Arizona going comfortably for Trump would not hold up, and now that Kamala is the candidate it appears that Democrats are now running much stronger in those two states. Nevada is for Republicans what NC is for Democrats - they always come close to winning, but never seem to get over the top. I still think Harris will carry the state in the end by a small margin. And in Arizona the state GOP is a dumpster fire, and Kari Lake will likely drag down the entire GOP ticket in November. No one can be sure about those two states of course, but Democrats have a much better chance of carrying both than the polls or pundits have wanted to admit to this point, imo.
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plus Arizona has abortion on the ballot, right?
 
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