2025 & 2026 Elections | Adams drops out in NYC

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Paine said:
But I also think you’re reacting not just to my tone, but to the fact that this framework is making more sense to a lot of people.
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That's always where leftists end up. There's no such thing as disagreement. We know everything; our knowledge is unassailable; and if you don't agree it's because you are sold out to corporate America/ neoliberal/ threatened by a framework that is making more sense. Always how it goes.

My first reaction was GFY but I'll give you a chance to phrase your point in a manner that isn't insulting and invalidating. Let's see if you can do it. I've been trying to give you the benefit of the doubt. I've been defending your ideas where appropriate. If you are going to respond with this bullshit, then I will skip all that. I'm not making you prattle on endlessly about NYC politics, which you know nothing about (and it's not just me saying that -- pretty much every NYCer has either expressed the same or has just avoided). If you think you can lecture us about what happened in a city you don't know, where many posters actually live -- you're not doing the "meet people where they are" thing very well. Seems rather selective.
 
rodoheel said:
And to sort of touch on what super is saying - I think it's highly likely we're focusing on strategic questions that mostly only matter at the margins, when the real thing that has to happen is that the country has to fall into a crisis under conservative leadership to want to swing things back the other direction. What do, say, Obama 2008 and FDR 1932 have in common, when liberals swept into power on the back of populist messages of "hope and change"? Everything had gone to shit under Republicans. We can talk until we're blue in the face about the right organizing approach or the best way to spend election dollars, but a "blue wave" election like those probably won't happen unless and until the country goes to shit under Republicans again.
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I think you are correct and Super thinks such a crisis is coming for the 2026 midterms. By then, some (but not all) of the shit from Trumps BBB will have played out.
 
Did Paine’s posts in this thread disappear? I was coming back to look up some of the books he mentioned but now I don’t see the posts.
 
rodoheel said:
Did Paine’s posts in this thread disappear? I was coming back to look up some of the books he mentioned but now I don’t see the posts.
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The only one you need to know was Theda Skocpol's book on the Tea Party. Pretty sure Tea Party is in the name so you can find it. I think the others were either quite dated or just journal articles.

That was the one that interested you, at least.
 
Generally “left the board” means a poster just stops posting and/or visiting the site. How would one even go about eliminating their username and deleting their posts? And why would one do that?
 
farce© said:
Generally “left the board” means a poster just stops posting and/or visiting the site. How would one even go about eliminating their username and deleting their posts? And why would one do that?
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1. Paine knows that I've seen his full name. He posted a substack link, and when I opened it, it briefly threw up a message box saying, "So-and-so sent you this gift link." I told him truthfully that I didn't catch the last name, that I averted my gaze and only processed that it started with and E. But there's no way for him to be sure of that. It's possible that he worried about talking too much on a board that wasn't fully anonymous.

2. Deleting a user name and the posts is something one might to do to assure others that you've left. IIRC he said he was engaged. Maybe his fiancee was thinking he spends too much time here, and he said he would cut down, and then yesterday he spent hours, got caught and then deleted the account.

3. It's also something you can do if you don't have the willpower to stay away. It's like if you are trying to quit smoking, you probably want to throw out the box of Marlboros you bought last week.
 
superrific said:
I don't have a life, so no worries about that. But this place ain't always good for mental health.
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Yeah, on the original ZZL I took several extended breaks. Once for the best part of a year, and others for a few months. Sometimes I was just too busy and other times I was just fed up.

Now that I'm retired I have more time for foolishness! And thanks particularly to nycfan, this place winds up being a pretty damn good news aggregator.
 
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