2025 & 2026 Elections | Blue Wave 2025 results

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gtyellowjacket said:
Terrible, especially in a place like cullowhee. It's not great that it happens in Greensboro but I would expect there to be many more polling stations close by.
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I'm thinking I might recommend to her becoming friends or even joining the young Democrats club at WCU because I'm sure they will make sure she gets to the voting site
 
GoHeelsweeeehoooo said:
I'm thinking I might recommend to her becoming friends or even joining the young Democrats club at WCU because I'm sure they will make sure she gets to the voting site
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I'm sure there will be no shortage of people willing to transport students to a polling place if they want to take the time to do it... Whether she joins the young Democrats or not. I think the issue is the more casual walking through the student center and sees a poll type of student. We should be emphasizing to young folks how it is important to participate in the Democratic process so we all have a stake in this thing but the local election board isn't going to think that far ahead.
 
Way back in the early 70s all zillion students at Univ Of Wisconsin ( me included) voted in Madison, not their home towns
They elected a community activist as Mayor and his leadership really turned the city politics around . The "unexpected " part was that his leadership also resulted in numerous City revilaization projects-not just an end to police gassing Student protests. I.E. he was good for Business and subsequently ran and won many times off and on.
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SnoopRob said:
The question here is when & where are the right times and places for those candidates.

AOC works because she's in a district where her constituents want her to take the stands she takes and elect/re-elect her to do so. Bernie works for similar reasons in Vermont.

Jasmine Crockett running for Senate from Texas is not the right place for a "speak truth to power" candidate. In Texas, the only way that Dems are going to win a state-wide seat is by running a fairly centrist candidate that can convince a whole lotta folks that they're not "too liberal" to be allowed in DC. You know when you don't have to "speak truth to power"? When you have power. I'd rather run a candidate who can actually win the seat and gain power over one who will inevitably be on the outside looking in merely able to talk to those actually running things.

I've laughed at/with Jasmine Crockett alongside everyone else when she's made fun of Republicans because it can certainly be funny. But it's only funny because she's a first/second term backbencher with no real power. If she wants to be in leadership and/or hold positions where she can effect change, she's going to have to tone down the PR stunts and move in ways that make her come across as a more serious elected official (i.e. "follow the AOC path"). I don't want the Democratic Party to follow the path of the Republican Party where whomever can create the biggest circus gets to lead, because that's how you end up with clowns in charge. If Crockett wants to be anything other than a fairly low-level House member, she's going to have to tone down the rhetoric and show that she can be more than a PR machine.
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"AOC works because she's in a district where her constituents want her to take the stands she takes and elect/re-elect her to do so."

So I'm guessing you would not be supportive of AOC running against Chuck Schumer in the Senate primary because Chuck is in leadership and because with him in leadership means he "can effect change"...I'm not seeing Chuck effecting much change lately.

In my opinion, Crockett is a serious politician. Her campaign will depend upon whether she can inspire young voters, black and Hispanic voters, and a few disaffected republican voters who are feeling duped by Trump and GQP "leadership".

I also like Talarico and would be happy to see him as the next Texas Senator, as well. It will be interesting to see which candidate Dem primary voters prefer. Hopefully, Chuck will no putt his thumb on the scale given his poor track record.
 
Zoo_View said:
Why does a female candidate have to be a great candidate to win the Presidency?

Trump, Biden, Dubya, Clinton 1, GHW Bush, Jimmy Carter, and Richard Nixon weren’t great candidates and they won.

*Clinton 1 ran with the burden of extramarital affairs (that was a big deal in 1992) and being Slick Willie the draft dodging politician.
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Clinton 1 wasn’t a great candidate? Are you daft?
 
heelinhell said:
In my opinion, Crockett is a serious politician. Her campaign will depend upon whether she can inspire young voters, black and Hispanic voters, and a few disaffected republican voters who are feeling duped by Trump and GQP "leadership".

I also like Talarico and would be happy to see him as the next Texas Senator, as well. It will be interesting to see which candidate Dem primary voters prefer. Hopefully, Chuck will no putt his thumb on the scale given his poor track record.
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Crockett's campaign success, whether that is defined as winning or over-performing expectations, will depend on how much money she can raise, like every other high profile political race in this country....especially since Citizens United.
 
Zoo_View said:
He was an excellent campaigner.

He was a known adulterer and alleged draft dodger from a pissant state. He was a flawed candidate.

1992 was a strange election.
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Perot got 19% of the vote-even though he dropped out for a couple months
 
farce© said:
Crockett's campaign success, whether that is defined as winning or over-performing expectations, will depend on how much money she can raise, like every other high profile political race in this country....especially since Citizens United.
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I think she will get a lot of small donor donations going into the primary. The wild card is whether Chuck Schumer will have the DNC pick the nominee or will he let the voters pick the nominee.
 
I feel some anxiety thinking about the next round of elections. I'll read this thread and find a few things interesting, then feel some freak-out regarding our country's state and future, then decide I need memory-hole it all and go back into a cave.
 
gregh1 said:
I feel some anxiety thinking about the next round of elections. I'll read this thread and find a few things interesting, then feel some freak-out regarding our country's state and future, then decide I need memory-hole it all and go back into a cave.
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I’m with you. I feel like it will be Venezuela where the opposition clearly won but the entrenched regime rigged it all and declared itself the winner. Someone Convince me otherwise.
 
heelinhell said:
"AOC works because she's in a district where her constituents want her to take the stands she takes and elect/re-elect her to do so."

So I'm guessing you would not be supportive of AOC running against Chuck Schumer in the Senate primary because Chuck is in leadership and because with him in leadership means he "can effect change"...I'm not seeing Chuck effecting much change lately.

In my opinion, Crockett is a serious politician. Her campaign will depend upon whether she can inspire young voters, black and Hispanic voters, and a few disaffected republican voters who are feeling duped by Trump and GQP "leadership".

I also like Talarico and would be happy to see him as the next Texas Senator, as well. It will be interesting to see which candidate Dem primary voters prefer. Hopefully, Chuck will no putt his thumb on the scale given his poor track record.
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Chuck may not effect much change, but dude surely understands how to hold power. He wins his elections and he has moved up the ranks in DC. I don't think he's a good Minority Leader, but he certainly can be a good Majority Leader.

In general, I'm not for primarying existing officeholders, especially in the Senate. My hope is that Schumer is ready to retire when his term expires in a couple of years. (What if Dems can retake the Senate in 2026 and give him a last 2 year run as Majority Leader, after which he graciously retires for the future of the party...that's a really nice bow on his career, no?) If he retires, i'd be perfectly fine with AOC running to be the new Junior Senator from NY. Heck, I'd be ok with the party leaders using AOC as a way to encourage Schumer to retire in 2028. But I'd struggle to support a contested primary there because I think it'd risk using lots of money and energy - and creating intraparty conflict - for a seat that Dems are almost certain to win. An important note, though, is that I'm fine with 2026/2028 AOC running for that seat, but I would not have been nearly as excited to have her run for it in 2018/2020. And the difference is that AOC has grown into her current position and moved away from some of her early PR moves toward actions that support the entire party.

Jasmine Crockett would be very, very smart to learn from AOC about how DC functions and how to build a career as an effective politician rather than as a social media star. Crockett could very well "inspire young voters, black and Hispanic voters" and have no realistic chance in a state-wide election in Texas if she turns off a lot of folks in the suburbs across the state. She's done a good job creating name recognition for herself, but IMHO she's got a lot to do to prove that she can be the kind of candidate who will have a long and impactful career in DC, especially trying to do so from a red state like Texas.
 
Zoo_View said:
He was an excellent campaigner.

He was a known adulterer and alleged draft dodger from a pissant state. He was a flawed candidate.

1992 was a strange election.
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This post reminded me of the line from Back to the Future where the 1955 version of Doc Brown asks Marty McFly who the President is in 1985, and McFly tells him it’s Ronald Reagan, to which Brown responds, “Ronald Reagan the actor?! Who’s vice president? Jerry Lewis?!” And that made me think how presidential politics are funny.

Who would have had Reagan becoming president anywhere on their radar prior to the late-1960s? Who, after the 1960 election, would have said, “Richard Nixon may have lost this election, but he’ll win if he runs again in 1968.” Who, before news of the Watergate scandal broke, would have thought that a peanut farmer-turned-one-term-governor from Georgia would be the next elected president? Who, before the 1992 election season, would have thought that a governor from Arkansas (of all places) in his mid-40s would beat an incumbent to become president? Who, for most of American history, would have thought a black man with a name like Barrack Hussein Obama would be elected president? Who among those who had ever known anything about Donald Trump would have thought he would one day become president? Who, as of January 2008 (when Joe Biden withdrew from the Democratic primary after placing fifth in then Iowa caucuses) thought Biden would later be elected president within just a few weeks of him turning 78? And who, just after January 6, 2021, would have thought that a 78-year-old Donald Trump would once again be elected president? Okay, to be fair, I think that things had gotten so weird in this country at that point, most people didn’t rule it out as a ridiculous possibility. But who, just about five years prior to that, would have thought that a guy who lost his re-election bid, had been twice impeached, had been convicted of 34 felonies and charged with numerous other felonies on both federal and state levels, had been found civilly liable for rape and sexual assault, had been found civilly liable for fraud, had made numerous claims about the election he lost being stolen, had incited an insurrection, had numerous public statements that went well beyond being childish and petty, claimed during an nationally televised debate that immigrants were eating people’s pets and that children were having sex change operations in school, and who just constantly whines and complains and acts the victim would be elected president at the age if 78.
 
SnoopRob said:
Chuck may not effect much change, but dude surely understands how to hold power. He wins his elections and he has moved up the ranks in DC. I don't think he's a good Minority Leader, but he certainly can be a good Majority Leader.

In general, I'm not for primarying existing officeholders, especially in the Senate. My hope is that Schumer is ready to retire when his term expires in a couple of years. (What if Dems can retake the Senate in 2026 and give him a last 2 year run as Majority Leader, after which he graciously retires for the future of the party...that's a really nice bow on his career, no?) If he retires, i'd be perfectly fine with AOC running to be the new Junior Senator from NY. Heck, I'd be ok with the party leaders using AOC as a way to encourage Schumer to retire in 2028. But I'd struggle to support a contested primary there because I think it'd risk using lots of money and energy - and creating intraparty conflict - for a seat that Dems are almost certain to win. An important note, though, is that I'm fine with 2026/2028 AOC running for that seat, but I would not have been nearly as excited to have her run for it in 2018/2020. And the difference is that AOC has grown into her current position and moved away from some of her early PR moves toward actions that support the entire party.

Jasmine Crockett would be very, very smart to learn from AOC about how DC functions and how to build a career as an effective politician rather than as a social media star. Crockett could very well "inspire young voters, black and Hispanic voters" and have no realistic chance in a state-wide election in Texas if she turns off a lot of folks in the suburbs across the state. She's done a good job creating name recognition for herself, but IMHO she's got a lot to do to prove that she can be the kind of candidate who will have a long and impactful career in DC, especially trying to do so from a red state like Texas.
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I agree that AOC has an advantage over Crockett; AOC is in blue state NY and Crockett is in red state TX. I have said before that I was not a big fan of AOC when she was a member of "the Squad" but I agree she has grown and matured as a member of Congress and would love to see her as a Senator.

I would love for Schumer to become Senate Majority Leader in 2026 and be willing to block any moves that Trump attempts to undermine the Constitution .
 
nycfan said:
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according to the Emerson poll director...

"Husted has a 16-point lead among male voters and voters without a college degree, and a 14-point lead among voters over 40. Brown has a 13-point lead among voters under 40, a 3-point lead among women voters, and an 8-point lead among independent voters."
 
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