2025-2026 NBA Thread - Coby White traded to Charlotte Hornets

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farce© said:
Nonsense. The incident didn't start with Moussa's foul of Duren. After the previous Detroit basket, Duren hit Moussa with a hard forearm shiver to the chest. There was a lot of shit talk between the two. It turns out their "relationship" goes back to high school when Duren was at Mont Verde Academy and Moussa was at IMG. Duren deserved the same penalty as Moussa. By no means was Duren a victim in this incident.
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I don't know what happened on the possession before, but on this possession Diabate fouled Duren (hard but fairly normal foul) and then initiated the post-play physical confrontation with a headbutt. Duren pushed him away with a hand to the face, which rightly got him a suspension, and Diabate then went berserk looking for a fight. I think it's completely appropriate for the guy who both initiated the inappropriate post-play altercation and then tried to escalate it into something much uglier to get a longer suspension than the guy who reacted to the initial escalation (albeit with a hand to the face, which he shouldn't have done) and then rightly avoided accepting Diabate's invitation to get both guys suspended for weeks.
 
rodoheel said:
I don't know what happened on the possession before, but on this possession Diabate fouled Duren (hard but fairly normal foul) and then initiated the post-play physical confrontation with a headbutt. Duren pushed him away with a hand to the face, which rightly got him a suspension, and Diabate then went berserk looking for a fight. I think it's completely appropriate for the guy who both initiated the inappropriate post-play altercation and then tried to escalate it into something much uglier to get a longer suspension than the guy who reacted to the initial escalation (albeit with a hand to the face, which he shouldn't have done) and then rightly avoided accepting Diabate's invitation to get both guys suspended for weeks.
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I agree with all of this except since we’re splitting hairs, I’d say the headbutt was a light one by both, more a head-push. And it was hard to tell but it seemed simultaneous, but only because Diabate was following him and yapping after the foul, as Duren had walked away from him after the foul. He turned around and they both lowered their heads at about the same time.
 
My take - After the foul, both guys walked towards each other and put their heads down. I have seen people point to Duren as the instigator, and others feel like Diabate was. Since at this point neither had done anything that would warrant even a technical let alone a suspension, I’ll say nothing at this point was really instigated by anyone.

Duren then “mushed” (as hilariously described by Jalen Brown) Diabete in the face. That was the first incident that would be out of “normal” NBA confrontations where nothing out-of-bounds (so to speak) had yet been done.

Diabate and Bridges then took it to another level by throwing fists and not stopping their aggression for an extended time. At this point, Duren wisely backed off (I say wisely to mean to avoid further punishment, not because I think they could have beaten him up).

So, I think it is fair that Diabate and Bridges got longer suspensions. I do think it should have been one game for Duren and two for Bridges and Diabate, but that is just my own opinion, obviously.

I think LaMelo might have left the bench so if that is accurate I feel fortunate that he didn’t get any suspension.
 
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rodoheel said:
I'm confused - your suggestion is that Duren should have gotten into a literal fistfight with Diabate that would have resulted in both guys being suspended for weeks?
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I'm saying if you're going to shove a guy in the face then you should be prepared to fight him.
 
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