2025-2026 NBA Thread - Pelicans fire their HC

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The Pels fired Willie Green this morning after starting the season 2-11.

If you brought him back after last year, why would you fire him on a Saturday morning 13 games into the season (when Zion has missed 8 of those games)?

Was he caught shoveling beignets into Zion’s mouth or something late last night?
 
The amount of hypocrisy from NBA stans re: Nico is just galling.

It's mostly the same people who thought that after Dallas got Klay and then Flagg to pair with Kyrie and AD they were going to roll through the Western Conferencee, and that Luka was too fat to ever get over the hump in LA.
 
The Pels fired Willie Green this morning after starting the season 2-11.

If you brought him back after last year, why would you fire him on a Saturday morning 13 games into the season (when Zion has missed 8 of those games)?

Was he caught shoveling beignets into Zion’s mouth or something late last night?
Yep. Ridiculous to fire the Coach when 3 of their top players have been hurt. But even w those players they are no better than an average team.
 
Steph was absolutely magical last night against the Spurs. Making unbelievable baskets. He has to be the most lethal offensive player ever. Hope he can play at least 2 or 3 more years
 
Yep. Ridiculous to fire the Coach when 3 of their top players have been hurt. But even w those players they are no better than an average team.
Last year i claimed that Zion wouldn't play a season's worth of games for the rest of his career. i haven't lost that bet yet though he seems to have slimmed down and may be poised to have a healthier season.

But i think its clear that he's not the generational player the internet thought he was going to be*. He's more 'Nique than Michael

*Here are all the internet-proclaimed "generational talents" we've had over the last 15 years: Anthony Davis, Lonzo Ball, Jahlil Okafor, Zion, Paolo, Wemby.

**Lot of disappointing Duke products on this list.
 
Last year i claimed that Zion wouldn't play a season's worth of games for the rest of his career. i haven't lost that bet yet though he seems to have slimmed down and may be poised to have a healthier season.

But i think its clear that he's not the generational player the internet thought he was going to be*. He's more 'Nique than Michael

*Here are all the internet-proclaimed "generational talents" we've had over the last 15 years: Anthony Davis, Lonzo Ball, Jahlil Okafor, Zion, Paolo, Wemby.

**Lot of disappointing Duke products on this list.
You’re using generational talent and generational player interchangeably, when there’s a big difference. One is based on potential, the other is based on performance and longevity. You’d be hard pressed to find anyone reasonable who’d not consider Zion and Wemby generational talents. The world has *never* seen anything like their talents combined with their size, irrespective of generation.

But just ask AD how it’s a much longer road to becoming a generational player. Even if he ever had a shot at that type of title, injuries have made it impossible.

Incidentally, using a comparison to Dominique Wilkins doesn’t do much to diminish anyone. He’s one of the 75 greatest players ever. If MJ is your standard of generational players, it would be a very short list.
 
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Before the season I put some fun money on Detroit to win the East, it was as much a bet against the field as it was a bet on the Pistons. Plus I’m a huge Cade fan. But they are cookin’ out of the gate.

Aside from beating the Rockets, they haven’t played any of the big boys from the West yet, but they’ve handled everything that’s come at them including Cade, Jalen Duren, and even Ausar Thompson being out for a few games.

Duren looks like an All Star and is doing things on both ends I haven’t seen him do. Much improved defensively, and his handle and jumper have him looking scary.

Plus they’re getting Jaden Ivey back soon. They’re going to cool off when they run up against the best of the West, but they’re a lot of fun to watch.
 
Lebron's double-digit scoring streak ended last night. It was amazing, really -- almost 1300 games, which is like 450 more than the runner-up (MJ). The new highest current streak is Durant at ~230 games.

Lebron gets a lot of undeserved flak for his supposed selfishness. But he could have taken the last shot in regulation to continue his streak. Nobody would have faulted him for taking the last shot to win the game. Indeed, often the superstar players are expected to take the last shot.

But he didn't shoot. He drew the defense and passed to Hachimura -- who hit the game winning shot and Lebron got the game winning assist. I don't see that as an anomaly in any way. That's how Lebron has played basketball since his first year in the league. He plays to win -- unlike Kobe, who played to be the hero and winning was always second to his individual glory.

That's one subtle way he reshaped the game. Teams didn't used to look for their SF/PF to make plays for others. Then Lebron won that way and now we see offenses that run through the big men -- Jokic obviously, but also guys like Adebayo to a lesser extent. He was to passing big men what Curry was to three pointers.

People have accused me of riding Lebron's jock, but this is what I've always admired about him. He is a genuinely unselfish player on the court. I don't really care about off the court crap. It's mostly not observable, hard to impossible to verify, and of limited salience. He was the kid who watched MJ and took special note of the TWO finals winning shots that MJ created for other players. Yes, the dunks and the spectacular finishes and the post moves . . . but mostly the winning.
 
Lebron's double-digit scoring streak ended last night. It was amazing, really -- almost 1300 games, which is like 450 more than the runner-up (MJ). The new highest current streak is Durant at ~230 games.

Lebron gets a lot of undeserved flak for his supposed selfishness. But he could have taken the last shot in regulation to continue his streak. Nobody would have faulted him for taking the last shot to win the game. Indeed, often the superstar players are expected to take the last shot.

But he didn't shoot. He drew the defense and passed to Hachimura -- who hit the game winning shot and Lebron got the game winning assist. I don't see that as an anomaly in any way. That's how Lebron has played basketball since his first year in the league. He plays to win -- unlike Kobe, who played to be the hero and winning was always second to his individual glory.

That's one subtle way he reshaped the game. Teams didn't used to look for their SF/PF to make plays for others. Then Lebron won that way and now we see offenses that run through the big men -- Jokic obviously, but also guys like Adebayo to a lesser extent. He was to passing big men what Curry was to three pointers.

People have accused me of riding Lebron's jock, but this is what I've always admired about him. He is a genuinely unselfish player on the court. I don't really care about off the court crap. It's mostly not observable, hard to impossible to verify, and of limited salience. He was the kid who watched MJ and took special note of the TWO finals winning shots that MJ created for other players. Yes, the dunks and the spectacular finishes and the post moves . . . but mostly the winning.
LeBron may be the most maligned all-time great in sports history.

He’s been doing things right the overwhelming majority of time for the past 22+ years.

Certainly not perfect but who is?
 
The Pels fired Willie Green this morning after starting the season 2-11.

If you brought him back after last year, why would you fire him on a Saturday morning 13 games into the season (when Zion has missed 8 of those games)?

Was he caught shoveling beignets into Zion’s mouth or something late last night?
Snoop, do yourself a favor and look up Charles Barkley commenting on Zion working out before a game a few years ago. I am being lazy, but if you search and find it, let me know how hard you laughed...
 
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LeBron may be the most maligned all-time great in sports history.

He’s been doing things right the overwhelming majority of time for the past 22+ years.

Certainly not perfect but who is?
Yes. When you count how many games he has played over the years, including a lot of intense playoff games, his durability has been quite impressive.
When Jordan kicked to Paxson for an open three-pointer, it was a great assist. When James made a similar pass and the teammate did not hit, James was criticized too harshly.
 
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