"A Senator Just Unapologetically Declared the U.S. a White Homeland"

Some excerpts from Schmitt's address:

"If America is everything and everyone, then it is nothing and no one at all. But we know that’s not true.

America is not a “universal nation.” It is something distinctive, unique, and real—unlike any other place or people in the history of mankind.

Western civilization was defined by its restless, relentless, dynamic spirit—a drive to create, explore and discover that spurred the West to heights of political, intellectual and technological achievement unmatched by any other civilization in human history.

America was settled, founded and built by the most adventurous, the most courageous, the most curious and innovative and risk-taking sons and daughters of the West.

Our country is, in this important sense, the most essentially Western nation. For our settler ancestors, the American frontier stretched out as a horizon of infinite possibility. It was here, on this continent, that the West realized its destiny.

This, my friends, is why every great feat of the modern world bore American fingerprints."

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"We Americans are the sons and daughters of the Christian pilgrims that poured out from Europe’s shores to baptize a new world in their ancient faith. Our ancestors were driven here by destiny, possessed by urgent and fiery conviction, by burning belief, devoted to their cause and their God."

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"For decades, the people in power sought to turn our past into a repressed memory—something so awful that we would prefer to forget it altogether. They made self-hatred and shame our new civic religion."

.......

When they tear down our statues and monuments, mock our history, and insult our traditions, they’re attacking our future as well as our past. By changing the stories we tell about ourselves, they believe they can build a new America—with the new myths of a new people.

But America does not belong to them. It belongs to us. It’s our home. It’s a heritage entrusted to us by our ancestors. It is a way of life that is ours, and only ours, and if we disappear, then America, too, will cease to exist."

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Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent, a new nation, conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.
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If America was a universal proposition, then everything we inherited from our specific Western heritage had to be abolished. So the statues come down. The names are changed. Yesterday’s heroes become today’s villains. The story of the nation has to be rewritten to align America with its true creed.

On the Right, the situation wasn’t all that different. The truth is, by the 1990s, too many on the Right had come to accept the same basic worldview as the liberal elites they claimed to oppose.

In foreign policy, trade, immigration and the domestic culture wars, too many conservatives defined the American identity as nothing more than an abstract and vaguely-defined proposition. Even if you didn’t want to immigrate here, you would be made to submit to that proposition anyway, via military crusades to bring Madisonian democracy to the furthest corners of the world.

For years, conservatives would talk as if the whole world were just Americans-in-waiting—“born American, but in the wrong place.” America was, as one neoconservative writer put it, “The First Universal Nation.”

That’s what set Donald Trump apart from the old conservatism and the old liberalism alike: He knows that America is not just an abstract “proposition,” but a nation and a people, with its own distinct history and heritage and interests.

.........

The Continental Army soldiers dying of frostbite at Valley Forge, the Pilgrims struggling to survive in the hard winter soil of Plymouth, the pioneers striking out from Missouri for the wild and dangerous frontier, the outnumbered Kentucky settlers repelling wave after wave of Indian war band attacks from behind their stockade walls—all of them would be astonished to hear that they were only fighting for a “proposition.”
Don't think this was a white nationalist speech and the Lincoln reference is a streeeetch.

I think the Senator is going to love the Slate piece. That speech just went from something 1000 people heard to something millions heard. He's going to love the attention and the campaign donations.
 

"A Senator Just Unapologetically Declared the U.S. a White Homeland

America, he says, isn’t an idea—and isn’t for everyone.


On Nov. 19, 1863, Abraham Lincoln delivered one of the greatest speeches in American history, the Gettysburg Address. It opened “Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth, on this continent, a new nation, conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.”

On Tuesday (Sept. 2, 2025), Eric Schmitt, the junior senator from Missouri, declared that Lincoln was wrong.

“What is an American?” This was the question Schmitt posed at the fifth annual National Conservatism Conference in Washington. His answer is that the nation is fundamentally not based on the idea of equality or freedom or any other ideal. Nor is it accessible to people of all races and religions. It is fundamentally, he told an assembled crowd, a white homeland.

The white Europeans who settled America and conquered the West “believed they were forging a nation—a homeland for themselves and their descendants,” he said. “They fought, they bled, they struggled, they died for us. They built this country for us. America, in all its glory, is their gift to us, handed down across the generations. It belongs to us. It’s our birthright, our heritage, our destiny. If America is everything and everyone, then it is nothing and no one at all. But we know that’s not true. America is not a ‘universal nation.’”

A Sitting Senator Just Went Full Mask-Off White Nationalist


Here is a transcript of Schmitt's comments: Sen. Schmitt at NatCon : What Is an American?


The author at Slate asserts that Schmitt "Declared the U.S. a White Homeland" and that he said that Lincoln was wrong. Did he?

Thoughts?
Between this and what I read on social media comments, I'm really worried that we are past the tipping point.

I'm flabbergasted at how many people don't understand why the federal government invading cities, deporting without due process, and supporting unchecked racism and homophobia are bad for our society.
 
Some excerpts from Schmitt's address:

"If America is everything and everyone, then it is nothing and no one at all. But we know that’s not true.

America is not a “universal nation.” It is something distinctive, unique, and real—unlike any other place or people in the history of mankind.

Western civilization was defined by its restless, relentless, dynamic spirit—a drive to create, explore and discover that spurred the West to heights of political, intellectual and technological achievement unmatched by any other civilization in human history.

America was settled, founded and built by the most adventurous, the most courageous, the most curious and innovative and risk-taking sons and daughters of the West.

Our country is, in this important sense, the most essentially Western nation. For our settler ancestors, the American frontier stretched out as a horizon of infinite possibility. It was here, on this continent, that the West realized its destiny.

This, my friends, is why every great feat of the modern world bore American fingerprints."

______________________

"We Americans are the sons and daughters of the Christian pilgrims that poured out from Europe’s shores to baptize a new world in their ancient faith. Our ancestors were driven here by destiny, possessed by urgent and fiery conviction, by burning belief, devoted to their cause and their God."

______________________

"For decades, the people in power sought to turn our past into a repressed memory—something so awful that we would prefer to forget it altogether. They made self-hatred and shame our new civic religion."

.......

When they tear down our statues and monuments, mock our history, and insult our traditions, they’re attacking our future as well as our past. By changing the stories we tell about ourselves, they believe they can build a new America—with the new myths of a new people.

But America does not belong to them. It belongs to us. It’s our home. It’s a heritage entrusted to us by our ancestors. It is a way of life that is ours, and only ours, and if we disappear, then America, too, will cease to exist."

____________________

Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent, a new nation, conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.
____________________

If America was a universal proposition, then everything we inherited from our specific Western heritage had to be abolished. So the statues come down. The names are changed. Yesterday’s heroes become today’s villains. The story of the nation has to be rewritten to align America with its true creed.

On the Right, the situation wasn’t all that different. The truth is, by the 1990s, too many on the Right had come to accept the same basic worldview as the liberal elites they claimed to oppose.

In foreign policy, trade, immigration and the domestic culture wars, too many conservatives defined the American identity as nothing more than an abstract and vaguely-defined proposition. Even if you didn’t want to immigrate here, you would be made to submit to that proposition anyway, via military crusades to bring Madisonian democracy to the furthest corners of the world.

For years, conservatives would talk as if the whole world were just Americans-in-waiting—“born American, but in the wrong place.” America was, as one neoconservative writer put it, “The First Universal Nation.”

That’s what set Donald Trump apart from the old conservatism and the old liberalism alike: He knows that America is not just an abstract “proposition,” but a nation and a people, with its own distinct history and heritage and interests.

.........

The Continental Army soldiers dying of frostbite at Valley Forge, the Pilgrims struggling to survive in the hard winter soil of Plymouth, the pioneers striking out from Missouri for the wild and dangerous frontier, the outnumbered Kentucky settlers repelling wave after wave of Indian war band attacks from behind their stockade walls—all of them would be astonished to hear that they were only fighting for a “proposition.”


Was this "Too Long: Didn't Read" or something?
 
BTW...after reading the entire Schmitt speech I found it to cleverly conceal White Supremacy and trumpism from actual direct quotation but almost perfectly coded for the readers among MAGA. Otherwise, Joshua Shanes, the author of this Slate piece has probably helped disseminate that message across the board. I have to say that I wish Shane had been more clever in his commentary...at least to the degree of Schmitt's speech writers.
 
BTW...after reading the entire Schmitt speech I found it to cleverly conceal White Supremacy and trumpism from actual direct quotation but almost perfectly coded for the readers among MAGA. Otherwise, Joshua Shanes, the author of this Slate piece has probably helped disseminate that message across the board. I have to say that I wish Shane had been more clever in his commentary...at least to the degree of Schmitt's speech writers.
I just can't see white supremacy in there or at least it wasn't the intent of the speech. He was celebrating some American accomplishments while minimizing the conquest and genocide of the natives (an event that a large number of black Americans participated in as well BTW). But that is not the same as a speech saying, either overtly or disguised, whites are great and everyone else needs to be forcefully subjugated or removed from the USA.

Liberals need to stop assigning racism or hate to every comment a white Republican male makes. It plays well with the base but most people aren't seeing some kind of veiled conspiracy of racism. The liberals end up sounding little better than conspiracy nuts.
 
I just can't see white supremacy in there or at least it wasn't the intent of the speech. He was celebrating some American accomplishments while minimizing the conquest and genocide of the natives (an event that a large number of black Americans participated in as well BTW). But that is not the same as a speech saying, either overtly or disguised, whites are great and everyone else needs to be forcefully subjugated or removed from the USA.

Liberals need to stop assigning racism or hate to every comment a white Republican male makes. It plays well with the base but most people aren't seeing some kind of veiled conspiracy of racism. The liberals end up sounding little better than conspiracy nuts.
“We Americans are the sons and daughters of the Christian pilgrims that poured out from Europe’s shores to baptize a new world in their ancient faith.”

“By changing the stories we tell about ourselves, they believe they can build a new America—with the new myths of a new people. But America does not belong to them. It belongs to us. It’s our home. It’s a heritage entrusted to us by our ancestors. It is a way of life that is ours, and only ours, and if we disappear, then America, too, will cease to exist."

“… the outnumbered Kentucky settlers repelling wave after wave of Indian war band attacks from behind their stockade walls—all of them would be astonished to hear that they were only fighting for a proposition.”
 
“We Americans are the sons and daughters of the Christian pilgrims that poured out from Europe’s shores to baptize a new world in their ancient faith.”

“By changing the stories we tell about ourselves, they believe they can build a new America—with the new myths of a new people. But America does not belong to them. It belongs to us. It’s our home. It’s a heritage entrusted to us by our ancestors. It is a way of life that is ours, and only ours, and if we disappear, then America, too, will cease to exist."

“… the outnumbered Kentucky settlers repelling wave after wave of Indian war band attacks from behind their stockade walls—all of them would be astonished to hear that they were only fighting for a proposition.”
A Good German will never let an opportunity pass to obfuscate supremacy ideology.
 
“… the outnumbered Kentucky settlers repelling wave after wave of Indian war band attacks from behind their stockade walls—all of them would be astonished to hear that they were only fighting for a proposition.”
Not just for a proposition, but to steal the homeland of the heathen 'Indians', wipe out their culture and eventually kill all the millions of bison roaming the Great Plains. Good times! Onward Christian soldiers!
 
I just can't see white supremacy in there or at least it wasn't the intent of the speech. He was celebrating some American accomplishments while minimizing the conquest and genocide of the natives (an event that a large number of black Americans participated in as well BTW). But that is not the same as a speech saying, either overtly or disguised, whites are great and everyone else needs to be forcefully subjugated or removed from the USA.

Liberals need to stop assigning racism or hate to every comment a white Republican male makes. It plays well with the base but most people aren't seeing some kind of veiled conspiracy of racism. The liberals end up sounding little better than conspiracy nuts.
No fucking way. It’s the other way around. “Nothing is racist anymore because I can point to some social media posts that call everything racist.” The right continues to tell us they aren’t racist and racism really doesn’t exist anymore.

I grew up around racist assholes. They’re still in my hometown. They aren’t less racist now than they were decades ago, it’s the opposite. Years ago I walked into my dad’s office on a surprise visit to town. He was listening to Alex Jones (didn’t know how far gone he was back then). After explaining to him why Jones is awful he offered this up unprompted - “you know, I thought I was over being racist until that n****r Obama made me racist again.”

There was a guy I liked to drink beers with sometimes. Funny dude. Former marine. Jayhawk fan. Guess he finally felt comfortable enough around me to show me pics of the Nazi paraphernalia he collects. That kind of put into perspective why he would speak German occasionally to try to get a laugh.

There was a KU prof I really respected that I drank beers with occasionally. One day he said some of the nastiest racist shit I’ve ever heard.

After moving to Colorado within weeks someone I worked with made some racist “jokes.”

A former neighbor I enjoyed talking to one day decided to test me to see if I was racist like her. I imagine there’s folks here that know what I’m talking about. Someone will say some mildly racist shit to see if you’re racist like them so they can let the real hatred flow. Anyway out of nowhere she starts talking about how awful MLK was and that Lincoln was by far the WORST president ever. She’s a SC racist asshole.

I bring up these stories because I fucking hate conservatives trying to claim racism is a thing of the past. I’ve been around to hear the awful shit they spew in private. The speech this motherfucker gave had an intended audience. It’s people like those I described here.

FOH with your dismissal of this racist bullshit. The threshold for “is it racist” isn’t whether the n-word was used.
 
Shit, the biggest advantage white people had was that they were filthier than anyone else and almost everybody they invaded lost huge numbers to the diseases they brought. It's to be expected since Europeans stole their number system, their alphabet, most of their science and their religion from somebody else. It's just business as usual to steal the land as well.
 
No fucking way. It’s the other way around. “Nothing is racist anymore because I can point to some social media posts that call everything racist.” The right continues to tell us they aren’t racist and racism really doesn’t exist anymore.

I grew up around racist assholes. They’re still in my hometown. They aren’t less racist now than they were decades ago, it’s the opposite. Years ago I walked into my dad’s office on a surprise visit to town. He was listening to Alex Jones (didn’t know how far gone he was back then). After explaining to him why Jones is awful he offered this up unprompted - “you know, I thought I was over being racist until that n****r Obama made me racist again.”

There was a guy I liked to drink beers with sometimes. Funny dude. Former marine. Jayhawk fan. Guess he finally felt comfortable enough around me to show me pics of the Nazi paraphernalia he collects. That kind of put into perspective why he would speak German occasionally to try to get a laugh.

There was a KU prof I really respected that I drank beers with occasionally. One day he said some of the nastiest racist shit I’ve ever heard.

After moving to Colorado within weeks someone I worked with made some racist “jokes.”

A former neighbor I enjoyed talking to one day decided to test me to see if I was racist like her. I imagine there’s folks here that know what I’m talking about. Someone will say some mildly racist shit to see if you’re racist like them so they can let the real hatred flow. Anyway out of nowhere she starts talking about how awful MLK was and that Lincoln was by far the WORST president ever. She’s a SC racist asshole.

I bring up these stories because I fucking hate conservatives trying to claim racism is a thing of the past. I’ve been around to hear the awful shit they spew in private. The speech this motherfucker gave had an intended audience. It’s people like those I described here.

FOH with your dismissal of this racist bullshit. The threshold for “is it racist” isn’t whether the n-word was used.
There is no doubt there are racists. There likely will be for hundreds of years. I'm certainly not saying racism is a thing of the past.

But I don't think a guy's speech saying things like look at these great things Americans invented or achieved rises to that level. I don't think a speech that says things like manifest destiny was a great thing or those pilgrims came to this land to start a Christian nation rises to that level, although its closer.

I think the purpose of the speech was to criticize a notion in this country that because America has done some terrible things, we aren't allowed to celebrate anything. We've all seen it.

Q: "You know Washington was a great man for giving up power and showing what the President should be."

A: "Yes, but he was a slave holder. How can you ignore that?"

I think that is what the Senator is speaking to and frankly it resonates with a lot of voters. The left needs to try and get away from it.
 
“We Americans are the sons and daughters of the Christian pilgrims that poured out from Europe’s shores to baptize a new world in their ancient faith.”

“By changing the stories we tell about ourselves, they believe they can build a new America—with the new myths of a new people. But America does not belong to them. It belongs to us. It’s our home. It’s a heritage entrusted to us by our ancestors. It is a way of life that is ours, and only ours, and if we disappear, then America, too, will cease to exist."

“… the outnumbered Kentucky settlers repelling wave after wave of Indian war band attacks from behind their stockade walls—all of them would be astonished to hear that they were only fighting for a proposition.”
Especially that first paragraph is the closest.
 
You have a point that it's wrong not to consider the context of the times in judging someone's actions. It's also not wrong to point out flaws by the standards of ours. The question to me is did this person do their best not to hurt others and did this person treat people how that person would expect to be treated? Did, in context of their times , did this person come down on the side of broadening the range of people deserving to be treated that respect? We know that, in a perfect world, everyone should be but I don't believe in Santa Claus , either.
 
You have a point that it's wrong not to consider the context of the times in judging someone's actions. It's also not wrong to point out flaws by the standards of ours. The question to me is did this person do their best not to hurt others and did this person treat people how that person would expect to be treated? Did, in context of their times , did this person come down on the side of broadening the range of people deserving to be treated that respect? We know that, in a perfect world, everyone should be but I don't believe in Santa Claus , either.
Sure, just like this guy’s speech has to be considered next to everything that’s currently being done by this administration and tweeted by official government accounts. There’s no more benefit of the doubt.
 
“We Americans are the sons and daughters of the Christian pilgrims that poured out from Europe’s shores to baptize a new world in their ancient faith.”

“By changing the stories we tell about ourselves, they believe they can build a new America—with the new myths of a new people. But America does not belong to them. It belongs to us. It’s our home. It’s a heritage entrusted to us by our ancestors. It is a way of life that is ours, and only ours, and if we disappear, then America, too, will cease to exist."

“… the outnumbered Kentucky settlers repelling wave after wave of Indian war band attacks from behind their stockade walls—all of them would be astonished to hear that they were only fighting for a proposition.”
Dance Dancing GIF by Kéké
 
Sure, just like this guy’s speech has to be considered next to everything that’s currently being done by this administration and tweeted by official government accounts. There’s no more benefit of the doubt.
I was talking about Washington and historical figures in general. I consider current Republicans as still being weighed in the balance and found unwanted.
 
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