AA / Blackhawk Crash and other Crash and FAA News

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These third party analyses may be well intentioned, but they're stirring the same crap that social media always does. The prudent course is to wait for the final investigation to come out before making any definitive conclusions.
 


“… Data from the jet’s flight recorder showed its altitude as 325 feet (99 meters), plus or minus 25 feet (7.6 meters), when the crash happened Wednesday night, National Transportation Safety Board officials told reporters. Data in the control tower, though, showed the Black Hawk helicopter at 200 feet (61 meters) at the time.

The roughly 100-foot (30-meter) discrepancy has yet to be explained.

Investigators hope to reconcile the altitude differences with data from the helicopter’s black box, which is taking more time to retrieve because it became waterlogged after it plunged into the Potomac River. They also said they plan to refine the tower data, which can be less reliable. …”

This is going to tell us a lot, IMO. When I saw the footage, my first thought was "wow, it really doesn't look like they were very high off the ground when the collision occurred." Certainly didn't seem to be consistent with the BlackHawk being way too high. But I also put very little stock in trying to estimate distance based on a video like that, so my initial impression is worth little, if any, more than nothing.

But clearly either the BlackHawk was higher than they thought, or the plane was lower than they thought. It will be interesting to see what ends up being the case.
 



Conditions May Have Stymied Black Hawk Crew Before Fatal Crash​

The Army pilots were juggling dark skies, low altitude, a busy airspace and a cockpit without certain traffic detectors before the helicopter’s midair crash with a regional passenger jet.
 
Aircraft has disappeared in Alaska. Alaska is a rough place for small planes.

 
“… Preliminary estimates of the total number of accidents involving a U.S. registered civilian aircraft decreased from 1,277 in 2022 to 1,216 in 2023. The number of civil aviation deaths decreased from 358 in 2022 to 327 in 2023. All but 4 of the 327 deaths in 2023 were onboard fatalities. None of these deaths involved a commercial scheduled airline….”

 

At least one person is dead after two jets, including one owned by rock star Vince Neil, collided on the runway at Scottsdale Municipal Airport on Monday afternoon. Neil was not on board.

Around 2:45 p.m., multiple emergency crews responded to reports of an emergency at the airport near Scottsdale and Thunderbird roads.

According to the FAA, Neil’s Learjet 35A veered off the runway after landing and crashed into a Gulfstream G-200 business jet that was parked.

Airport officials say it appears the left main landing gear failed as it was landing, causing the collision.

One person was dead when fire crews arrived.
 


Is this like when the media fixates on shark attacks in the summer or an actual issue?
 
I watched Black Hawk Down on Netflix last night. Kinda of a hard watching knowing the good guys get humiliated. Well, sort of. The bravery these people demonstrate to me is simply unimaginable. I did find interesting the background of three of the survivors featureds, which was essentially lost years as a teenager, no direction, drug use, etc, until they found a direction. I suppose becoming a Army Ranger is just another way to push the envelope. Anyway, for me a hard watch, but recommend it.
 
I watched Black Hawk Down on Netflix last night. Kinda of a hard watching knowing the good guys get humiliated. Well, sort of. The bravery these people demonstrate to me is simply unimaginable. I did find interesting the background of three of the survivors featureds, which was essentially lost years as a teenager, no direction, drug use, etc, until they found a direction. I suppose becoming a Army Ranger is just another way to push the envelope. Anyway, for me a hard watch, but recommend it.
You didn’t watch Black Hawk Down. You watched Surviving Black Hawk Down. One is a movie, one is a documentary around the events in that movie. Very different.
 


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National Transportation Safety Board Chairwoman Jennifer Homendy told reporters that the recording from the Black Hawk helicopter cockpit suggested an incomplete radio transmission may have left the crew without understanding how it should shift position just before the Jan. 29 crash, in which all 67 aboard the two aircraft were killed,

“That transmission was interrupted -– it was stepped on,” she said, leaving them unable to hear the words “pass behind the” because the helicopter’s microphone key was pressed at the same moment.

… William Waldock, professor of safety science at Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University, said stepped-on transmissions — where a pressed microphone key blocks incoming communication — is a well-known problem in aviation.

… The helicopter pilots may have also missed part of another communication, when the tower said the jet was turning toward a different runway, she said.

Homendy said the helicopter was on a “check” flight that night where the pilot was undergoing an annual test and a test on using night vision goggles. Investigators believe the crew was wearing night vision goggles throughout the flight. …”
 
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