ACCT: Notre Dame Biorhythms, 2:30 Start

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No. 5 seed North Carolina (20-12) vs. No. 12 seed Notre Dame (15-17)
Wednesday, March 12 — 2:30 p.m.
Charlotte, N.C. — Spectrum Center
TV: ESPN (Wes Durham, Cory Alexander)
Radio: Tar Heels Sports Network (Jones Angell, Tyler Zeller)

UNC Tar Heels:
Cadeau P = 5, E = 10, I = 80, X = 40
Davis P = 70, E = 80. I = 15. X = 40
Jackson P = 0, E = 5, I = 90, X = 45
Washington P = 95. E = 10 I = 60, X = 75
Powell P = 0, E = 60, I = 25. X = 15
Trimble P = 40, E = 35, I = 20, X = 30
Withers P = 0, E = 50, I = 85, X = 40
Lubin P = 20, E = 5, I = 25, X = 20
Claude P = 95, E = 95, I = 15, X = 55
Brown P = 0, E = 50, I = 0, X = 0
Tyson P = 0, E = 30, I = 25, X = 15

Coach Davis Wisdom = 45

Notre Dame Fighting Irish
No Birthdates
14 Keeba Njie 6-10 6.1ppg, 6rpg, Jr.
7 Tae Davis 6-9 15.5ppg, 6rpg Jr
3 Markus Burton 5-11 22.2ppg, 3.5rpg, 3.1apg So
41 Matt Allocco 6-4, 9.5ppg, 4.5rpg, 2.9apg, Sr
1 Julian Roper 6-4, 1.9ppg, 2rpg, Sr
26 J.R. Konieczny 6-7, 4.4ppg, 3.6rpg, Jr
25 Nikita La 6-10 2.5ppg, 3.6rpg, Sr.
2 Logan Imes 6-4, 2ppg, 1rpg, So
12 Garrett Sundra 6-11 2.6ppg, 1.5rpg, Fr

Coach Micah Shrewsberry

Look-In: Notre Dame birthdays are roundly obscure - we didn’t come up with them for the January 4 miracle win in South Bend nor for today. Frankly, Carolina dates of birth might be better left off as well given the low rhythms across the board. The Irish survived to advance vs Pitt yesterday with important contributions from Ukrainian big man Konstantynovskyl (10 pts & 9 rebs), 6-9 Tae Davis (11 pts, 5 rebs), and Markus Burton (10 pts, 5 Rebs). Notre Dame shot 39% from the field (20% from Three) against Pitt in an exciting but ugly game. The 55-54 win bore a feeling of desperation and chaos, especially in the final minutes. The Portal looms over such games like Last Call in a ‘70s Disco. IYKYK.

The Fighting Irish are tall and players measuring 6-10, 6-9, and 6-11 will see good minutes but their best (and most watched after) player is “Do-Everything” Little Man, 5-11, Markus Burton. Only 4 for 14 versus the Panthers yesterday in 34 minutes. Roper and Allocco (remember him from Cadeau’s game-winning 4-point play?) are gritty competitors and Konstantynovskyl a pest inside-out.

Frontcourt: Washington looks to play well. Lubin is below the fold. Claude stands ready.

Wings: It looks like fire from Powell and brains from Jackson and Withers.

Guards: Davis is athletic and motivated and Cadeau is thoughtful. Trimble needs to reach way down.
Overall: Notre Dame is primed but are they also weary? Is Carolina rededicated after losing a second half lead against dook? Or did they see the Light? Big questions. There is a Serious Streak running through The Tar Heels today. Old Schoolers R. J. Davis and Jalen Washington have the goods to excel while a wily Withers and a calculating Cadeau look like solid complements. Motivated on the wing is Drake Powell and joining him is a cagey Ian Jackson. Guts must push Lubin and Trimble.

Carolina has to win. Las Vegas has them by 7.5. Without Irish rhythms it is a tough call but it looks tighter - like UNC by 5.
 
dukeman92 said:
I miss the old ACC.
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Which the version? The original 8 that included South Carolina? The 7-team version that existed throughout most of the 1970s after South Carolina left and before Georgia Tech joined? The 8-team version that existed after Georgia Tech joined but before FSU joined? The 9-team version after FSU joined, but before VT and Miami joined? Or one of the later versions before the current one?

For me, I might go with the 9-team version that existed between the 1991-92 and 2003-04 seasons as my favorite era, but I’m also good with the 8-team version that existed just prior to that. The original version was before I was born.
 
Patb78 said:
I miss the old TV coverage too. WFMY in Greensboro carried the games. On the day of the quarterfinals our boss allowed a portable TV to be set up in the break room so you could catch a couple of minutes of the afternoon games.
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I remember we got a new Dept head at my job that stopped this like 25 yr annual practice
I never did like her much after that......
 
Icky Mettle said:
Which the version? The original 8 that included South Carolina? The 7-team version that existed throughout most of the 1970s after South Carolina left and before Georgia Tech joined? The 8-team version that existed after Georgia Tech joined but before FSU joined? The 9-team version after FSU joined, but before VT and Miami joined? Or one of the later versions before the current one?

For me, I might go with the 9-team version that existed between the 1991-92 and 2003-04 seasons as my favorite era, but I’m also good with the 8-team version that existed just prior to that. The original version was before I was born.
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"The 9-team version after FSU joined, but before VT and Miami joined?"

yes. that one. the ACC of my childhood and adolescence.
 
Icky Mettle said:
Which the version? The original 8 that included South Carolina? The 7-team version that existed throughout most of the 1970s after South Carolina left and before Georgia Tech joined? The 8-team version that existed after Georgia Tech joined but before FSU joined? The 9-team version after FSU joined, but before VT and Miami joined? Or one of the later versions before the current one?

For me, I might go with the 9-team version that existed between the 1991-92 and 2003-04 seasons as my favorite era, but I’m also good with the 8-team version that existed just prior to that. The original version was before I was born.
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1989-1999 was the golden era of the league IMHO
Cameron, The Thriller Dome & University Hall. Back to back answered by a Tarheel run in '93. The Lethal Weapon Three & The Les Robinson Invitational... Hating guys like Dante Calabria & Laron Profit... True round robin... it'll never be the same.
 
The late '60s through the mid '80s was pretty special. The tension of the tourney was unbelievable when only the champion made the NCAAT.
Lots of character coaches: Lefty, Stormin' Normin, Holland, Tates Lott, Valvano, Cremins, Foster/K and el Deano.
 
Ramrouser said:
The late '60s through the mid '80s was pretty special. The tension of the tourney was unbelievable when only the champion made the NCAAT.
Lots of character coaches: Lefty, Stormin' Normin, Holland, Tates Lott, Valvano, Cremins, Foster/K and el Deano.
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'89-'99 had some great coaches as well.
Mike Krzyzewski
Dean Smith
Gary Williams
Dave Odom
Bobby Cremins
Jeff Jones
Pat Kennedy
Rick Barnes

The League was loaded.
 
I was good with the 8 (Tech not Cocks).
I miss ol Lefty and Maryland
Bobby Cremins
Valvano
K when he was just a tad tolerable (didn’t last long)
Clemson and the unbeaten streak at home
Wake with decent teams and coaches
UVa with Holland and Sampson

1977-1993 was a great stretch with Tech joining in ‘79 and I didn’t really mind FSU joining in 1991 - though it messed up the brackets come tourney time.

For me, keep those 9 and add VaTech and end it there. Pretty solid 10 team league. All these other teams that reside in a State which doesn’t have the Atlantic Ocean as a border sux.
 
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Round about now and 50 plus years ago teachers across The Old North State would be rolling a cart like this into classrooms, assigning some light ‘busy-work,’ and settling in to watch a few games spotlighting Tobacco Road. In those days the Atlantic Coast Conference of C.D. Chesley and “Sailing With The Pilot” was 8 teams small and stretched from Maryland to South Carolina. The conference season was 14 games, with everyone doing a home and away with everyone else. Sentiments were strong and rivalries and history ran deep. The familiarity bred a good deal of both respect and enmity each one to the other.



In 1971 an ACC Tournament with 8 teams was held in the only proper place, The Greensboro Coliseum. That year was an infamous one featuring a heart-breaking 52-51 finals win by South Carolina over Carolina. The NCAA field was only 32 then so a very good Tar Heel team went to the National Invitational Tournament, where, after putting down dook in the semis, they defeated a then non-ACC Georgia Tech for the championship. UNC also beat a Julius Erving-led Massachusetts team on the path to that title, a significant feat. The NIT was strong before the expansion of the NCAA field to 64.



Whether there were 8 or 7 (Sub Carolina bugged out in a huff in ‘72 so until Georgia Tech joined in 1979 the count was 7 schools in the league) the games began on Thursday with the winners battling on Friday evening and the knock-down, drag-out final was scheduled for Saturday. For that Thursday noon game - the first versus last seed - classrooms were transformed into mini-arenas and bone-dry barrooms - hardwood heavens peopled by youthful lovers, and haters, of the teams in play and everyone in thrall to The Game that Mr. Chesley and that Old Seafaring Pilot broadcast, saving us all for one glorious afternoon from the quadratic formula and diagramming sentences.



In 1971 on that afternoon we watched UNC’s George Karl, Dennis Wuycik, and Bill Chamberlain rout a hapless Clemson squad. Lee Dedmon, Dave Chadwick, and the hard-nosed prototype for every floor-diving defensive-specialist to come through Carolina, Steve Previs, added in key contributions that day. UNC was ranked #13 and on the other side of the bracket stood Frank McGuire’s New York City Gamecocks ranked #6 - the despicable Roche, Riker, Ribock, Owens, and Joyce. Only the tournament victor went to March Madness (itself a brand yet to be dreamed up by marketing).



Tournament recollections from that long first day are Howard White and Jimbo O’Brien starring for the Terps in a loss and Wolfpack reserve Jim Risinger rose up to help Paul “Cocaine” Coder upset Duke. Barry Parkhill and Scott McCandlish led UVA over Wake and Charlie Davis and Gil MacGregor. That bunch of Tar Heels back in 1971 will forever be among my favorites and Roche shall be eternally despised, unliked, and unwelcome.



Today, March 11, 2025 the tab is three games. No. 12 seed Notre Dame (14-17, 8-12) faces No. 13 Pitt (17-14, 8-12) in the opener at 2 p.m. ET. No. 10 Virginia Tech (13-18, 8-12) plays No. 15 California (13-18, 6-14) at 4:30 p.m. ET in the Golden Bears’ first-ever ACC Tournament game. No. 11 Florida State (17-14, 8-12) takes on No. 14 Syracuse (13-18, 7-13) in the Tuesday nightcap at 7 p.m. ET. Thus on Day One nary an original ACC school will play.



On Wednesday, March 12 the first day starts with No. 8 seed Georgia Tech (16-15, 10-10) playing No. 9 Virginia (15-16, 8-12) at noon. The Cavaliers will be the first of the true ACC squads to play. Founding school NCSU, by the way, has transcended The Les Robinson Invitational of yore by not even making the top 15 and thus joining Boston College and Miami on the outside, gameless (and newly coachless) and displaced by Left-Coasters in the tournament that they won so miraculously just a year ago.



That afternoon No. 5 seed North Carolina (20-12, 13-7) will play the winner of the Notre Dame-Pitt contest at 2:30 p.m. ET. In the evening session, No. 7 Stanford (19-12, 11-9) makes its ACC Tournament debut, playing the winner of the Virginia Tech-California game at 7 p.m. ET, while No. 6 SMU (22-9, 13-7) takes the ACC Tournament court for the first time ever as it plays the Florida State-Syracuse winner at 9:30 p.m. ET.



Not until Thursday do the top four seeds, dook, Louisville, Clemson, sand Wake Forest play the survivors. Friday will bring the semifinals and on Saturday, at 8:30 pm, the showdown for all òothe marbles.



There is value-added in that Carolina - 20-12 (13-7) with only a single so-called Quad 1 win stretching out behind them (UCLA), may just need to win the tournament to make the NCAA - just like the old days - you gotta win to go to the Big Dance.
 
Icky Mettle said:
Which the version? The original 8 that included South Carolina? The 7-team version that existed throughout most of the 1970s after South Carolina left and before Georgia Tech joined? The 8-team version that existed after Georgia Tech joined but before FSU joined? The 9-team version after FSU joined, but before VT and Miami joined? Or one of the later versions before the current one?
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I only remember the 8-team version with GT & the 9-team version with FSU.

But I’d take any pre-2005 expansion version over any post-2005 version. And every subsequent expansion has only made it worse.
 
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