Alternative to what just happened the last 3.5 years.

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Alternative to what just happened the last 3.5 years.

After his first 100 days – Biden makes it known that he is a one term prez and opens the door to a Democratic primary. “I’m too old to save the Country again… but I will endorse the Dem candidate chosen via primary.”
Possible candidates:
Kamala Harris
Gretchen Whitmer
Pete Buttigieg
Gavin Newsom
Wes Moore
Josh Shapiro
Andy Beshear
Roy Cooper
Tim Walz
Reuben Gallego
J.B. Pritzker
Pat Paulson
Other___

My Pick: Andy Beshear

Discuss...
 
In very much of a "duh" view of hindsight, Biden should have certainly announced in February/March of 2023 that he would not seek reelection and the Dems should have held a normal primary to determine the nominee.

I don't have a strong feeling of who should have been the preferred nominee as a result of that campaign except that Dems would have benefited from a primary-tested nominee.
 
SnoopRob said:
In very much of a "duh" view of hindsight, Biden should have certainly announced in February/March of 2023 that he would not seek reelection and the Dems should have held a normal primary to determine the nominee.

I don't have a strong feeling of who should have been the preferred nominee as a result of that campaign except that Dems would have benefited from a primary-tested nominee.
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Duh
 
Revisionist Biden plan:

1. Tell people to get out the house and go back to work in early 2021 as soon as vaccines were available; instead of printing a couple trillion more dollars.

2. Decide, early on, whether to go full bore on Trump with the criminal justice system or not. Either decision would have been fine. Delayed, slow, weak, half-measure criminal prosecutions were a huge gift to Trump and his election prospects.

3. Keep implicit promise to be a one term president and hand it off to a primary process waaay before summer '24.
 
SmilingJack said:
Just effing stop. It's over and we need to move to the survive and advance. The dumbing down of education and cutbacks worked. We're the most successful and ignorant first world country ever seen. Congratulations.
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I get it, and concur. And I say this as a retired school teacher. I returned to the U.S. after living abroad for 7 years. I took a job teaching in public schools in the mid 90’s. I knew the answer was education. But that’s a tough nut to crack.

The move to survive and advance may be to look back and see what may have worked better, so we can can advance from a position of power. History teaches us if we will only look on it.
 
Scientific Mapp said:
Revisionist Biden plan:

1. Tell people to get out the house and go back to work in early 2021 as soon as vaccines were available; instead of printing a couple trillion more dollars.

2. Decide, early on, whether to go full bore on Trump with the criminal justice system or not. Either decision would have been fine. Delayed, slow, weak, half-measure criminal prosecutions were a huge gift to Trump and his election prospects.

3. Keep implicit promise to be a one term president and hand it off to a primary process waaay before summer '24.
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Agree.
 
Centerpiece said:
I get it, and concur. And I say this as a retired school teacher. I returned to the U.S. after living abroad for 7 years. I took a job teaching in public schools in the mid 90’s. I knew the answer was education. But that’s a tough nut to crack.

The move to survive and advance may be to look back and see what may have worked better, so we can can advance from a position of power. History teaches us if we will only look on it.
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I took my dad through the Governors Club the year before he died. It was 2000 and he said
"Do you ever think these rich people are going to have spend so much money on security that it would be cheaper to pay for education?"
So glad he didn't have to see 9/11 or 2016/2024 as any of those would have killed his yellow dog mantra!
 
Centerpiece said:
Alternative to what just happened the last 3.5 years.

After his first 100 days – Biden makes it known that he is a one term prez and opens the door to a Democratic primary. “I’m too old to save the Country again… but I will endorse the Dem candidate chosen via primary.”
Possible candidates:
Kamala Harris
Gretchen Whitmer
Pete Buttigieg
Gavin Newsom
Wes Moore
Josh Shapiro
Andy Beshear
Roy Cooper
Tim Walz
Reuben Gallego
J.B. Pritzker
Pat Paulson
Other___

My Pick: Andy Beshear

Discuss...
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I, too, like Beshear (with Cooper as a silver medalist). But neither would have won this election. Maybe no one on the list would have won. Pritzker might have had the best chance from this list with his "I'm the only billionaire in the race" approach. A candidate who might have had the celebrity and wealth to give Trump a run for his money is Mark Cuban but he likely wouldn't have made it through the primary.
 
My first thoughts on Shapiro or Bashear went to the potential of losing the black vote, esp black women's vote. In Pennsylvania black women were 6% of all voters, black men were 3%. Among swing states (including Tx, Fl) it was 7% and 5% of all voters.

But on a national level Harris underperformed Biden among black women and black men ,the latter went much more red in contrast with 2020, 24% of them voted for Trump.

Given that she underperformed Biden I don't think her turnout of the Black vote was a strength to consider. Not her fault, but she and Hillary have ensured that 2028 will be a man, probably white.
 
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