America's Reichstag fire??? (ICE, Nat’l Guard & Military in LA)



“… The termination notice was addressed to nationals of Cuba, Haiti, Nicaragua and Venezuela who came to the United States through a Biden-era parole program. More than half a million people from those four countries benefited from the program, though it’s unclear how many have since sought other forms of immigration relief while in the United States. The notice, according to DHS, was sent to email addresses provided by those in the program.…”
 
nycfan said:
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Trump and Republicans keep claiming that 21 million more immigrants entered the US during the Biden years. I rarely see any pushback on that number.

But it is literally impossible. There aren't even 21 million undocumented immigrants total, much less the last four years.

I think the asylum program had a total of roughly 5 million, and obviously some of those people were deported. Total deportations (not including at the border "deportations") were about 1.5 million.

Maybe Trump thinks 15 million people illegally snuck across the border undetected. But if they are undetected, why stop at 21 million? Why not just say 100 million people snuck entered? There is no way we could house or employ an additional 21 million people in four years. And yet, mainstream Republicans keep spouting this absurd number to justify ICE raids.
 
Calheel said:
Trump and Republicans keep claiming that 21 million more immigrants entered the US during the Biden years. I rarely see any pushback on that number.

But it is literally impossible. There aren't even 21 million undocumented immigrants total, much less the last four years.

I think the asylum program had a total of roughly 5 million, and obviously some of those people were deported. Total deportations (not including at the border "deportations") were about 1.5 million.

Maybe Trump thinks 15 million people illegally snuck across the border undetected. But if they are undetected, why stop at 21 million? Why not just say 100 million people snuck entered? There is no way we could house or employ an additional 21 million people in four years. And yet, mainstream Republicans keep spouting this absurd number to justify ICE raids.
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I've challenged it a 100 times and they just talk past it.
 
superrific said:
People who care about science know that there is no science of race, that racial categories have no scientific foundation at all, and that they certainly don't say that Mexicans are Caucasians.

But then again, your science and actual science have little in common.
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Oh, there were scientifically lots of different "races" of humans. About 20, to be exact.

If you want to say that the concept of race has changed..sure. When 3-5 races were commonly recognized, by the scientific community, Mexicans were apart of the Caucasian race.
 
ZenMode said:
Oh, there were scientifically lots of different "races" of humans. About 20, to be exact.

If you want to say that the concept of race has changed..sure. When 3-5 races were commonly recognized, by the scientific community, Mexicans were apart of the Caucasian race.
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Only those of pure Spanish descent. I know that in a large number of Hispanic countries, that's less than half.
 
ZenMode said:
If you want to say that the concept of race has changed..sure. When 3-5 races were commonly recognized, by the scientific community, Mexicans were apart of the Caucasian race.
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How can you make that determination until you're seen their skulls and counted the bumps?
 
superrific said:
How can you make that determination until you're seen their skulls and counted the bumps?
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"I" didn't determine anything. The same scientific community that decided the number of races also decided which people were generally apart of each race.
 
ZenMode said:
"I" didn't determine anything. The same scientific community that decided the number of races also decided which people were generally apart of each race.
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Good thing science keeps researching and studying. Today, it is understood that race is simply a social construct and that there is no biological "race" anywhere.
 
nycfan said:


“… The termination notice was addressed to nationals of Cuba, Haiti, Nicaragua and Venezuela who came to the United States through a Biden-era parole program. More than half a million people from those four countries benefited from the program, though it’s unclear how many have since sought other forms of immigration relief while in the United States. The notice, according to DHS, was sent to email addresses provided by those in the program.…”
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Is this like when Idi Amin expelled the Asians in Uganda?
 
1moretimeagain said:
Gonna be tough for the TACO man to hit Stephen Miller’s numbers if allows the undocumented but employed immigrants to stay.
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Was thinking the same thing. This post by Trump is directly opposed to what Miller wants. And Miller always wins that battle.
 
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