Approval/Disapproval Polls

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nycfan said:


Dems need to take heed, though, their own approval on the economy is not that great, either. They need to be making a case for their proposals for positive steps to help middle class/working class voters.
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I think Kamala made several proposals for positive steps to help the middle/ working class voters in the 2024 election. Apparently, those voters were not buying it. Hopefully, now that they are seeing Trump is not going to lower their cost of living, they will return to supporting the party that always has improved the lives of middle class/working class Americans unlike the GQP.
 
nycfan said:


Dems need to take heed, though, their own approval on the economy is not that great, either. They need to be making a case for their proposals for positive steps to help middle class/working class voters.
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That "which party makes the country more prosperous?" graph almost (but not quite) has a 1:1 correlation with the party out of office. Except for a few very strong economic periods, most Americans think the president's party is less capable of making the country prosperous.
 
wmheel1287 said:
Oh it will turn for sure but that will not happen democratically. I have been saying for almost a decade now that people do not understand the Trump MAGA phenomenon and I still stand by that. They now have cemented power. They will not yield it. They are terrified of voters for good reason and will use every lever to make sure they never end up on the wrong side of the power dynamic.
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I never intended to insinuate that the tide will turn at the ballot box. No. There's usually blood in the streets unless there is a Military coup involved. And in our case, that would be the best case scenario. All those Generals et.al. at the Hegseth clusterfuck? Those are the guys who will turn the tide eventually. I'll be dead and gone, but I'm sure it will be glorious.
 
heelinhell said:
I think Kamala made several proposals for positive steps to help the middle/ working class voters in the 2024 election. Apparently, those voters were not buying it. Hopefully, now that they are seeing Trump is not going to lower their cost of living, they will return to supporting the party that always has improved the lives of middle class/working class Americans unlike the GQP.
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Doubt that.

The American people are poorly educated, ignorant, arrogant, impatient, easily motivated by the squirrel running across the lawn (the squirrel is trans people in sports and bathrooms, critical race theory, DEI, gay marriage, Ivermectin as a cure-all, Tylenol causes autism, etc.).

The American people are incapable of connecting the recent high inflation to the global economic disruption caused by the Covid pandemic.

They’re incapable of looking back at Trump 1.0 and seeing how venal and incompetent he was/is.

If a Democrat is elected in 2028, and a recession hits in 2029-2032, Americans will blame the Democrats.
 
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EyeballKid said:
While I largely agree, I think it’s pretty hard to ignore the vast majority of weekly polls that show a pretty massive shift away from Trumpism.

To be clear:

We’re still a year away from midterms and 3 years away from presidential elections. A lot can and will change between now and then.

That said, there’s a fair amount of evidence that folks are only now staring yo feel the effects of Trump’s policies.

There will be tens/hundreds of thousands more deportations of innocent immigrants who were trying to “do it the right way.” There will be more black and brown people assaulted by ICE and DHS. There will be more innocent white protesters arrested and jailed.

There will be more military in our streets. The economic stresses of the tariff war will get worse. The insanity of our provocations in Venezuela and the rest of Latin/South America will get worse.

Our healthcare will get worse. People will start to feel the effects of the breakdown of federal agencies that has happened under Trump/Musk.

There’s a lot of pain coming. Hopefully Dems can message appropriately to assure voters that there’s a better way.
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I pray you are right but most of the polls posted on this board had me thinking we had a real chance a year ago. Lots of confirmation bias.

There will be also be massive shenanigans with the vote and who knows what kind of hijinx as he attempts to retain power and stay out of jail.
 
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Zoo_View said:
Doubt that.

The American people are poorly educated, ignorant, arrogant, impatient, easily motivated by the squirrel running across the lawn (the squirrel is trans people in sports and bathrooms, critical race theory, DEI, gay marriage, Ivermectin, Tylenol causes autismetc.).
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I've kept mental notes on everyone that I have talked to since before the election and after who I knew was smart enough to see the Trump danger and generally a likely Democrat voter or at least Independent minded and I keep getting the same type answers. They were fully aware how bad a choice Trump was............but they viewed the Democrats as way too bad. I suspect its the Trans issue more then anything else (or that family of issues).

And the amazing thing is that I'm hearing that Trump was still their best choice.
 
BlueSmoke said:
I've kept mental notes on everyone that I have talked to since before the election and after who I knew was smart enough to see the Trump danger and generally a likely Democrat voter or at least Independent minded and I keep getting the same type answers. They were fully aware how bad a choice Trump was............but they viewed the Democrats as way too bad. I suspect its the Trans issue more then anything else (or that family of issues).

And the amazing thing is that I'm hearing that Trump was still their best choice.
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Proves the point:
Poorly educated, ignorant, arrogant, impatient and easily motivated to chase the squirrel across the road…. And get run over by a bread truck.
Fitting demise for the typical American. Squashed flat on the highway while going after a fluffy tail.
 
StrangePackage said:
And Democrats will continue to not address substantively the issues, while Republicans will promise to fix things and make everything so much worse.
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How much of this is about how the formerly mainstream media is reporting the news? Conservatives have unabashedly bought out news sources to create the "media bias" they claimed existed under quasi-neutral ownership. How much is whatever message Dems have are being overlooked, underreported or mischaracterized? It's hard to put out fresh ideas if you can't get them heard. Selective reporting is more dangerous than false reporting.

I'm not saying that's what's happening because I'd rather be beaten than listen to politicians. I don't know what is but even Ronny Milsap could see a change in how news is reported.
 
LosPollosHermanos said:
I pray you are right but most of the polls posted on this board had me thinking we had a real chance a year ago. Lots of confirmation bias.

There will be also be massive shenanigans with the vote and who knows what kind of hijinx as he attempts to retain power and stay out of jail.
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Totally agree. I was the biggest sucker on this board a year ago, thinking and boasting that we were going to kick Trump's ass. Learned my lesson the hard way. I've got zero- I mean, absolutely zero- expectation that we will beat this dude and his MAGA movement before the grim reaper beats him first. The Democratic Party is too feckless and the American voting electorate wants this MAGA stuff too much.
 
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