Aviation Crashes and other FAA News

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The picture on the left is not the crashing aircraft...at least not on this flight. This plane never got that far off the ground. Consensus is no.mpre than 700 feet or so. Also, the gear was never retracted and this plane is gear up in the picture. Furthermore, it seems to me that neither engine in the crash ship is producing thrust and the condensation trails in the photo clearly shows thrusting engines.

I can't guess as to the cause of the failure, but this looks very much like a dual engine loss immediately after they rotated (took off) the aircraft. The plane was being at least somewhat controlled all the way down....wings level, nose up. I don't see the ram air turbine deployed but it's hard to tell. That would likely mean they managed to get the APU up and running for electrical power even though the main engines weren't generating it.
 
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The picture on the left is not the crashing aircraft...at least not on this flight. This plane never got that far off the ground. Consensus is no.mpre than 700 feet or so. Also, the gear was never retracted and this plane is gear up in the picture. Furthermore, it seems to me that neither engine in the crash ship is producing thrust and the condensation trails in the photo clearly shows thrusting engines.

I can't guess as to the cause of the failure, but this looks very much like a dual engine loss immediately after they rotated (took off) the aircraft. The plane was being at least somewhat controlled all the way down....wings level, nose up. I don't see the ram air turbine deployed but it's hard to tell. That would likely mean they managed to get the APU up and running for electrical power even though the main engines weren't generating it.
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On the aviation forum I frequent there are posters who claim to see what they think is the RAT, but it is too hard for me to be able to tell with the quality of the images available.
 
787 at takeoff going to London from India. that is a lot of fuel to burn


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A senior police officer has told reporters that the Air India flight AI171 crashed on a doctors’ hostel.

“The building on which it has crashed is a doctors’ hostel … we have cleared almost 70% to 80% of the area and will clear the rest soon,” they said, reports Reuters.

The Guardian has been unable to independently verify the report.
 
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A senior police officer has told reporters that the Air India flight AI171 crashed on a doctors’ hostel.

“The building on which it has crashed is a doctors’ hostel … we have cleared almost 70% to 80% of the area and will clear the rest soon,” they said, reports Reuters.

The Guardian has been unable to independently verify the report.
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British national who survived crash was traveling with his bother, family says​

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The only known survivor of the plane crash in India was traveling with his brother, according to relatives in the U.K.

The family of British national Vishwash Kumar Ramesh have told NBC’s partner in the U.K., Sky News, that they have not heard from another relative they believe was also on the flight.

A flight manifest seen by NBC News shows that U.K. national Mr. Ajay Kumar Ramesh was in seat 11J.
 
More on the survivor:

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1 survivor, 241 killed in Air India plane crash near Ahmedabad airport

Video posted to social media shortly after the crash and verified by NBC News shows plumes of thick, black smoke to the south of the airport.
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The survivor, Vishwash Kumar Ramesh, a British national of Indian origin, is “doing well” but “psychologically disturbed” by the event, according to the medical director of the Civil Hospital, where he is being treated.


Ramesh told The Hindustan Times that “it all happened so quickly.”

“Thirty seconds after takeoff, there was a loud noise and then the plane crashed,” he said.

Ramesh spoke to his father just before takeoff and then again after the plane crashed, his family told NBC News’ European partner, Sky News.

He was dazed, saying that he couldn't find his brother or any other passengers and that he did not know how he lived, his other brother, Nayan Kumar Ramesh, told the news outlet.

“I don’t know where my brother is; I don’t see any other passengers. I don’t know how I’m alive, how I exited the plane,” Nayan Kumar Ramesh reported his brother saying.

He said he has “no words to describe” the crash.

“This is a miracle that he survived,” Nayan said of Vishwash. “But what other miracle for my other brother?”
 



rinleezwins
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An analogy: Confusing flaps with gear would be shifting into the wrong gear in your car or hitting the break pedal instead of the clutch pedal. Killing fuel to both engines would turning the key ignition off and pulling the handbreak. You'd have to be fucking hallucinating or something to do that accidentally.



astral__monk
•10m ago


Ignition to off, pulling the hand brake, and then throwing the keys out the window.

Completely deliberate.
 
Additional information from the report:

>>Fuel samples taken from the bowsers and tanks used to refuel the aircraft were tested at the DGCA’s Lab and found satisfactory.

>>At this stage of investigation, there are no recommended actions to B787-8 and/or GE GEnx-1B engine operators and manufacturers.

>>The aft EAFR was substantially damaged and could not be downloaded through conventional means. The CPM was opened to inspect the memory card. The damage was extensive.
 
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